Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[BigBlueHen53]

I got on the mask up for cleaning band wagon as a result of the pandemic.
...And hadn't been sick until recently. My son brought home a standard cold from daycare in his first week and our whole household has had it. His cough wouldn't go away though, so when we went to have it checked out again last week they discovered that he was developing pneumonia. Scared me to death. He's doing just fine now after multiple daily nebulizer treatments, heavy hitter antibiotics, and steroids, but it just baffles me how some people can take such risks with Covid. He just had a cold that turned nasty, I can't imagine how much worse a severe case of Covid would be for a young child.

Must have been terrifying, @Gizabelle! So glad to hear he is on the mend. Nothing can make your heart go cold like hearing your kid is sick. Hug him an extra time for me!

 

[Cynthia12]

I got on the mask up for cleaning band wagon as a result of the pandemic.
...And hadn't been sick until recently. My son brought home a standard cold from daycare in his first week and our whole household has had it. His cough wouldn't go away though, so when we went to have it checked out again last week they discovered that he was developing pneumonia. Scared me to death. He's doing just fine now after multiple daily nebulizer treatments, heavy hitter antibiotics, and steroids, but it just baffles me how some people can take such risks with Covid. He just had a cold that turned nasty, I can't imagine how much worse a severe case of Covid would be for a young child.

So happy he's getting better!! We have a little grandson living here, parents too.. daycare too! Worried too.

 

[Cynthia12]

It's crazy here. Children are getting it left and right. That 924 cases are children since school started.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

View attachment 2864237View attachment 2864238View attachment 2864241 It's crazy here. Children are getting it left and right. That 924 cases are children since school started.

This is why its so important for parents to be good advocates and teach their kids to wash their hands properly. I dont have kids but I know that if I did I'd be sanitizing them right now before they entered the home. They're breeding grounds for bacteria and viruses. Every person I know who has gotten covid got it from their kids

 

[Gizabelle]

This is why its so important for parents to be good advocates and teach their kids to wash their hands properly. I dont have kids but I know that if I did I'd be sanitizing them right now before they entered the home. They're breeding grounds for bacteria and viruses. Every person I know who has gotten covid got it from their kids

that sounds really great in theory, but is a bit more complicated in practice.
We have been VERY proactive about teaching and enforcing proper hand washing/good hygiene, but there is only so much you can expect from a young child.
They will happily wash hands one minute, and then go rub them on the toilet the next, and then all over their faces the minute after that. For NO REASON... other than that they are kids. (Just a cringey example, btw)
Nature has dictated that they learn and explore their world through touch.
As much as you care to explain a thing or set good examples, they are still just kids, and results will be proportionate to their development.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

that sounds really great in theory, but is a bit more complicated in practice.
We have been VERY proactive about teaching and enforcing proper hand washing/good hygiene, but there is only so much you can expect from a young child.
They will happily wash hands one minute, and then go rub them on the toilet the next, and then all over their faces the minute after that. For NO REASON... other than that they are kids. (Just a cringey example, btw)
As much as you care to explain a thing or set good examples, they are still just kids, and results will be proportionate to their development.

 

[saysfaa]

I just heard that travel to the US from Europe has been suspended except from Great Britain. This also includes all trade.
What have you experienced, and are you experiencing shortages in your area? Have you been sick, or do you have friends or family that are?
Italy has closed commerce except for pharmacies and food stores.

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I've been the primary caregiver for my mother for the past two years. She is 85 and has enlarged heart (largest the ER doctor had seen), circulation issues (podiatrist hasn't been able to find a pulse in her feet for two years), stage 4 liver failure, severe osteoporosis (her lungs are denser than her bones), contact allergies to formaldehyde, parabens, cl+me, that resulted in extreme and unrelenting itching for a year before her rheumatologist referred her to an allergist (why her primary doctor or dermatologists didn't mystifies me). She is also allergic to some medicines.

In 2020, we went to doctors (she saw 14 different doctors in 2020, most more than once and most in person), hospitals (three different ones), clinics (5 at least), labs.

We lived where covid was among the hottest early and for long periods of time. Our county sometimes had the highest rate in the nation.

My husband was not able to work from home so he went out to work.

Our youngest son moved in with us in August 2020 to go to college virtually.

My mother lived with us until September 2020. Then she moved to an assisted living facility. They brought her meals and home health care stopped in twice a day to put lotion on her. I did the rest of her care.

My mother, husband and I did not get covid in 2020. My son thought he had it before he came (he had a headache one day.) I attribute this to early and extensive research into the virus and thoroughly applying what we learned about how not to get it. My best friend had recently lived in China as an expat and was very well informed and aware of both public and underground news from there. She warned us very early in January 2020.

In January 2021, the vaccines became available to people living in her assisted care facility. The week before the vaccine came, we asked her doctors if she should get it. They said she was clearly at risk for covid but also not a good candidate for the vaccine; they didn't know which was lower risk. She choose to get the vaccine and they refused to give it to her because her doctors didn't clearly say she

The next day we called the doctors again and clearly had gotten more information in the meantime and said she could get it. But there was no way to get it besides joining the wait lists/lotteries at the state health department along with all the other people over 60 who didn't live in long term care facilities.

I asked to discuss Ivermectin as a prophylactic until she could get the vaccine. Particularly since she was the only person living or working there that was not vaccinated; many workers, delivery people, ect., did not take precautions very consistently even before the vaccinations. Her doctor said he could not even discuss it because their corporate office did not allow him to.

In March, she got the vaccine. In April, I could have but what we were doing was effective so I decided to at least wait as see what happened to the people who took it.

In June, she entered hospice care. (Not related; she had been headed there anyway.)

In July, we decided to risk a visit from one of our out-of-state sons for the first time in 18 months. I thought he must have already had it; he took only the required precautions in a state that required among the least of any states. He arrived late at night, just as he began having a dry throat and fatigue. The next day, he got a message that he had been in extended contact with someone who tested positive for covid.

My husband had already spent an hour in the car with him. My husband also got covid. The son that lived with us spent three days sitting on the couch beside the visiting son playing video games. He didn't get it (evidently, he did have it the summer before). I left the house to stay alone at the farm for two weeks - with minimal visits to care for my mother. I did not get it.

My visiting son weighs 260 on a 5'10 frame and has untreated sleep apnea but no other comorbidities. He had a sore throat, dry cough, fatigue, and spiked a high fever over the first two days he had it. He took Ivermectin (people version), once per day and symptoms were 60% better within 12 hours, 80% better within 24 hours, and completely gone within 36 hours of the first dose. Then he went home and stopped taking it. All symptoms returned. He called his doctor for an appointment. His doctor told not to come it, to take Benadryl and rest and go to the ER if he got worse. He laid on the couch for three days because he couldn't breath if he moved or talked (but wasn't worse). He lives alone. I worried (understatement of the year) but he did recover.

My husband had the same initial symptoms as our son. On day two, he started taking Ivermectin (people version), and his symptoms also went away at a little slower rate than our son's initially did. My husband took it for the whole five days, though, as prescribed and his symptoms did not come back.

Soon, my mother will not need me so I will be free to decide on what risks I'm willing to take without considering how they may affect her.

I've been checking the World Health Organization's dashboard. And comparing the death rates from covid from a week a year ago, when no one was vaccinated, to the same week this year. Why are they higher this year in every week since late July? https://covid19.who.int/region/amro/country/us

 

[MTKitty]

I've been the primary caregiver for my mother for the past two years. She is 85 and has enlarged heart (largest the ER doctor had seen), circulation issues (podiatrist hasn't been able to find a pulse in her feet for two years), stage 4 liver failure, severe osteoporosis (her lungs are denser than her bones), contact allergies to formaldehyde, parabens, cl+me, that resulted in extreme and unrelenting itching for a year before her rheumatologist referred her to an allergist (why her primary doctor or dermatologists didn't mystifies me). She is also allergic to some medicines.

In 2020, we went to doctors (she saw 14 different doctors in 2020, most more than once and most in person), hospitals (three different ones), clinics (5 at least), labs.

We lived where covid was among the hottest early and for long periods of time. Our county sometimes had the highest rate in the nation.

My husband was not able to work from home so he went out to work.

Our youngest son moved in with us in August 2020 to go to college virtually.

My mother lived with us until September 2020. Then she moved to an assisted living facility. They brought her meals and home health care stopped in twice a day to put lotion on her. I did the rest of her care.

My mother, husband and I did not get covid in 2020. My son thought he had it before he came (he had a headache one day.) I attribute this to early and extensive research into the virus and thoroughly applying what we learned about how not to get it. My best friend had recently lived in China as an expat and was very well informed and aware of both public and underground news from there. She warned us very early in January 2020.

In January 2021, the vaccines became available to people living in her assisted care facility. The week before the vaccine came, we asked her doctors if she should get it. They said she was clearly at risk for covid but also not a good candidate for the vaccine; they didn't know which was lower risk. She choose to get the vaccine and they refused to give it to her because her doctors didn't clearly say she

The next day we called the doctors again and clearly had gotten more information in the meantime and said she could get it. But there was no way to get it besides joining the wait lists/lotteries at the state health department along with all the other people over 60 who didn't live in long term care facilities.

I asked to discuss Ivermectin as a prophylactic until she could get the vaccine. Particularly since she was the only person living or working there that was not vaccinated; many workers, delivery people, ect., did not take precautions very consistently even before the vaccinations. Her doctor said he could not even discuss it because their corporate office did not allow him to.

In March, she got the vaccine. In April, I could have but what we were doing was effective so I decided to at least wait as see what happened to the people who took it.

In June, she entered hospice care. (Not related; she had been headed there anyway.)

In July, we decided to risk a visit from one of our out-of-state sons for the first time in 18 months. I thought he must have already had it; he took only the required precautions in a state that required among the least of any states. He arrived late at night, just as he began having a dry throat and fatigue. The next day, he got a message that he had been in extended contact with someone who tested positive for covid.

My husband had already spent an hour in the car with him. My husband also got covid. The son that lived with us spent three days sitting on the couch beside the visiting son playing video games. He didn't get it (evidently, he did have it the summer before). I left the house to stay alone at the farm for two weeks - with minimal visits to care for my mother. I did not get it.

My visiting son weighs 260 on a 5'10 frame and has untreated sleep apnea but no other comorbidities. He had a sore throat, dry cough, fatigue, and spiked a high fever over the first two days he had it. He took Ivermectin (people version), once per day and symptoms were 60% better within 12 hours, 80% better within 24 hours, and completely gone within 36 hours of the first dose. Then he went home and stopped taking it. All symptoms returned. He called his doctor for an appointment. His doctor told not to come it, to take Benadryl and rest and go to the ER if he got worse. He laid on the couch for three days because he couldn't breath if he moved or talked (but wasn't worse). He lives alone. I worried (understatement of the year) but he did recover.

My husband had the same initial symptoms as our son. On day two, he started taking Ivermectin (people version), and his symptoms also went away at a little slower rate than our son's initially did. My husband took it for the whole five days, though, as prescribed and his symptoms did not come back.

Soon, my mother will not need me so I will be free to decide on what risks I'm willing to take without considering how they may affect her.

I've been checking the World Health Organization's dashboard. And comparing the death rates from covid from a week a year ago, when no one was vaccinated, to the same week this year. Why are they higher this year in every week since late July? https://covid19.who.int/region/amro/country/us

I’m curious how you got your hands on Ivermectin for humans if your doc was not allowed to discuss it with you (and presumably also forbidden from prescribing it)?

 

[saysfaa]

A small amount from Mexico. People I know who live near the border in the winter brought it back when they returned for the summer in the spring of 2021. It is nonprescription there. That is what my son took. My husband's came from doctors from another practice in a different organization than my mother's doctor.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

I've been the primary caregiver for my mother for the past two years. She is 85 and has enlarged heart (largest the ER doctor had seen), circulation issues (podiatrist hasn't been able to find a pulse in her feet for two years), stage 4 liver failure, severe osteoporosis (her lungs are denser than her bones), contact allergies to formaldehyde, parabens, cl+me, that resulted in extreme and unrelenting itching for a year before her rheumatologist referred her to an allergist (why her primary doctor or dermatologists didn't mystifies me). She is also allergic to some medicines.

In 2020, we went to doctors (she saw 14 different doctors in 2020, most more than once and most in person), hospitals (three different ones), clinics (5 at least), labs.

We lived where covid was among the hottest early and for long periods of time. Our county sometimes had the highest rate in the nation.

My husband was not able to work from home so he went out to work.

Our youngest son moved in with us in August 2020 to go to college virtually.

My mother lived with us until September 2020. Then she moved to an assisted living facility. They brought her meals and home health care stopped in twice a day to put lotion on her. I did the rest of her care.

My mother, husband and I did not get covid in 2020. My son thought he had it before he came (he had a headache one day.) I attribute this to early and extensive research into the virus and thoroughly applying what we learned about how not to get it. My best friend had recently lived in China as an expat and was very well informed and aware of both public and underground news from there. She warned us very early in January 2020.

In January 2021, the vaccines became available to people living in her assisted care facility. The week before the vaccine came, we asked her doctors if she should get it. They said she was clearly at risk for covid but also not a good candidate for the vaccine; they didn't know which was lower risk. She choose to get the vaccine and they refused to give it to her because her doctors didn't clearly say she

The next day we called the doctors again and clearly had gotten more information in the meantime and said she could get it. But there was no way to get it besides joining the wait lists/lotteries at the state health department along with all the other people over 60 who didn't live in long term care facilities.

I asked to discuss Ivermectin as a prophylactic until she could get the vaccine. Particularly since she was the only person living or working there that was not vaccinated; many workers, delivery people, ect., did not take precautions very consistently even before the vaccinations. Her doctor said he could not even discuss it because their corporate office did not allow him to.

In March, she got the vaccine. In April, I could have but what we were doing was effective so I decided to at least wait as see what happened to the people who took it.

In June, she entered hospice care. (Not related; she had been headed there anyway.)

In July, we decided to risk a visit from one of our out-of-state sons for the first time in 18 months. I thought he must have already had it; he took only the required precautions in a state that required among the least of any states. He arrived late at night, just as he began having a dry throat and fatigue. The next day, he got a message that he had been in extended contact with someone who tested positive for covid.

My husband had already spent an hour in the car with him. My husband also got covid. The son that lived with us spent three days sitting on the couch beside the visiting son playing video games. He didn't get it (evidently, he did have it the summer before). I left the house to stay alone at the farm for two weeks - with minimal visits to care for my mother. I did not get it.

My visiting son weighs 260 on a 5'10 frame and has untreated sleep apnea but no other comorbidities. He had a sore throat, dry cough, fatigue, and spiked a high fever over the first two days he had it. He took Ivermectin (people version), once per day and symptoms were 60% better within 12 hours, 80% better within 24 hours, and completely gone within 36 hours of the first dose. Then he went home and stopped taking it. All symptoms returned. He called his doctor for an appointment. His doctor told not to come it, to take Benadryl and rest and go to the ER if he got worse. He laid on the couch for three days because he couldn't breath if he moved or talked (but wasn't worse). He lives alone. I worried (understatement of the year) but he did recover.

My husband had the same initial symptoms as our son. On day two, he started taking Ivermectin (people version), and his symptoms also went away at a little slower rate than our son's initially did. My husband took it for the whole five days, though, as prescribed and his symptoms did not come back.

Soon, my mother will not need me so I will be free to decide on what risks I'm willing to take without considering how they may affect her.

I've been checking the World Health Organization's dashboard. And comparing the death rates from covid from a week a year ago, when no one was vaccinated, to the same week this year. Why are they higher this year in every week since late July? https://covid19.who.int/region/amro/country/us

Pandemics move in a bell shaped curve. This has been known for a long time and was first discovered by dr. Farr:
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/covid-19-william-farrs-way-out-of-the-pandemic/
Basically as variants arise they will reach their peak and then fall. The next variant maybe more contagious but a weaker strain that will have a much lower peak before decending. This will happen until the virus dies out, cures are made, or herd immunity. The numbers will always seem higher as more people get tested. Before we knew of the virus and had the tests the infection rate could very likely have been much higher. Now testing is common place so more people are getting tested. I'm citing pure science here and not conspiracy