Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[ShrekDawg]

Here’s mine.

https://www.mass.gov/doc/covid-19-cases-in-massachusetts-as-of-march-27-2020/download

 

[BDutch]

ACE inhibitors and ARBs are taken for diabetes, hypertension and some other heart ailments. They cause an increase in the ACE2 enzyme in the lungs, which is what the coronavirus attaches to to infect a cell. Both China and Italy found that hypertension and diabetes are high risk groups for severe illness and death. Many are concerned that ACE inhibitors and ARBs might be causing the increased risk rather than the conditions themselves. Dr. Fauci is among those.

@HenOnAJuneBug,
There is a lot of information going around that is not confirmed by serious health institutes. I translated this article for you from Dutch. I suppose doctors don’t mind if It helps that people don’t stop their medicines they need to stay healthy. But maybe I have to remove it if there is copywrite on it.

NEWS SCORONAVIRUS AND BLOOD PRESSURE REDUCERS
Use of blood pressure lowerers for coronavirus infection
Statement by the Dutch Hypertension Association (NHV) and the Dutch Association of Internists for Vascular Medicine (NVIVG) on the use of blood pressure reducers in coronavirus infection

Reports are circulating that a certain group of blood pressure reducers, ACE inhibitors and AT1R antagonists, are dangerous or, indeed, protective in (preventing) infection with the new coronavirus (COVID-19). These reports are based on the knowledge that the coronavirus can promote SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) through the enzyme "angiotensin-converting enzyme 2" (ACE2) infection. It is suggested that the use of ACE inhibitors and AT1R antagonists could influence this process and therefore these blood pressure reducers should be replaced by alternative blood pressure reducers (1).

The Dutch Hypertension Association (NHV) and the Dutch Association of Internists for Vascular Medicine (NVIVG) note that these speculations are confusing for the patients who use these substances. ACE inhibitors and AT1R antagonists are widely used in the treatment of high blood pressure (hypertension) and heart and kidney failure.

The NHV and NVIVG would like to emphasize that there is currently no solid evidence for modifications in the use of ACE inhibitors and AT1R antagonists to prevent contamination and spread of COVID-19. Also, there is no evidence that changes in use play a role in the treatment of COVID-19. The NHV and the NVIVG recommend that this treatment should be continued unchanged in patients taking ACE inhibitors and AT1R antagonists. This view is in line with statements made by international sister associations, such as the European Society of Cardiology (2), the European Society of Hypertension (3) and the International Society of Hypertension (4).

Literature references
1) Fang L, Karakiulakis G, Roth M. Are patients with hypertension and diabetes mellitus at increased risk for COVID-19 infection ?. Lancet Resp Med 2020. Published online March 11, 2020, link.

2) Position Statement of the ESC Council on Hypertension on ACEInhibitors and Angiotensin Receptor Blockers, link.

3) ESH Statement on COVID-19, link

4) A statement from the International Society of Hypertension on COVID-19, link

 

[BDutch]

My husband just told me he heard a report of a 102yo woman in Italy who's survived a Covid-19 infection after 12 days in the hospital. When her blood was tested after her recovery they found traces of immunity to the Spanish Flu. Could be what saved her!

This can’t be true. Corona is not a flu.

 

[HenOnAJuneBug]

Vaping appears to compromise lungs and make the teens and young adults who use vaping systems particularly vulnerable. We should expect a higher mortality for those groups in the US.

Males appear to have a higher mortality than females and individuals with Type A blood seem to be at higher risk of infection.

Yeah it's super scary. I feel so sorry for people who vape thinking it's safer or healthier than cigs. I used to think so. Boy was I wrong. Cigs can take a lifetime to kill a person, but vaping can do it in a few months if you get the wrong stuff.

 

[FortCluck]

This can’t be true. Corona is not a flu.

She was alive when the Spanish flu went through that's what they were talking about. It's not what saved her, but she has a good immune system.

 

[SnapdragonQ]

Didn't even know you lived in my state!

West-ish of you. I find the Richmond news/newspaper to be the best way to get the quickest general state updates.

 

[ShrekDawg]

I love the details on this site.

Me too!! Wish mine was that detailed haha

 

[FortCluck]

West-ish of you. I find the Richmond news/newspaper to be the best way to get the quickest general state updates.

Is your weather nice too? It's been gorgeous here. My ducklings are already outside with no heat at 2 weeks old. They never really used the heat except for the first 5 days.

 

[ShrekDawg]

Here’s mine.

https://www.mass.gov/doc/covid-19-cases-in-massachusetts-as-of-march-27-2020/download

I should note I’m in Plymouth County.

 

[Ladies-Eight]

We just got word of our first confirmed case in our county yesterday. One in the county above us. Worst case scenario was when it made the news that a doc who treats cancer patients and saw a full schedule of patients last Thursday in Kirksville has tested positive for the virus.

I don't know how it can get any worse than that. Those poor people.

We are hunkered down with a locked gate. Young neighbors next door (1/4th a mile away) check in on us, the old folks next door in my own words, LOL) via email. We had plans to run into town next week to replenish a few things but that is on hold with them not divulging where the case in our county was discovered. I understand HIPPA but for goodness sakes, we don't want their name and address, just WHERE in the county are they?

I have to say, I am reading some stories from the front line hospitals about the doctors and nurses who are fighting this battle alongside the victims and tears are rolling down my cheeks. I read this morning that some are resorting to wearing garbage bags to protect themselves because there is such a shortage of PPEs.

I am a retired nurse. Never in my life have I been prouder to say that or never have I been prouder of my chosen profession. I have been in their shoes during flu and GI virus outbreaks and know what they are going through and facing. Their dedication and perseverance in the face of danger, their compassion and their skill is a credit to each and every one of them.

I call them Angels in Scrubs and I can't think of a more fitting term to describe them. Yet in the back of my mind I wonder how many of them will wind up sacrificing their own lives or accidentally carry this virus home to their loved ones by the time this is over.

I am humbled by their sacrifice to mankind.

Be safe everyone, and God watch over the Angels in Scrubs.

My sentiments exactly. I am a retired nurse as well. I worked in surgery for a good part of my career. I have worked in the ER and ICU. None of those departments are easy to work in. More power to the dedicated medical field. Thank you to the families of those in the medical field.