Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[FortCluck]

Remember, every time you talk about COVID-19 being not very serious because it only effects certain people, anyone you know who has a disability or is elderly or otherwise in an at risk group is hearing that you don't think their deaths are very serious. Anyone with loved ones in those groups is hearing you don't think their loved ones deaths are very serious.

I'm young and yet I am at-risk for pneumonia because I've had it twice before and need to monitor myself in cold/flu season. My sister has no immune system due to RA medication and is 35. One of my closest friends is 29 and is pre-diabetic with thyroid issues and like me is in an at-risk group. My father is 70. One of my oldest friends in my dnd group is battling cancer right now. My partners parents are both in their late 50's.

We're listening when you say those at-risk people aren't something we should be worried about, and we should just expect deaths in their demographics.

I'm at risk so thank you for saying this. My heart hurts when I hear people act like it's nothing... Like Anyone's life doesn't matter unless it's their own. Completely breaks my heart people selfishly only think of themselves and not others.

 

[Blooie]

I am fearful, and I’m not embarrassed to admit it. I have COPD, heart disease, chronic kidney disease Stage 3B-4, and have had 4 stents placed in each leg artery and one in the heart. I’m 69, Hubby has Sarcoidosis, an auto-immune disease, and he’s 73. Son has insulin dependent diabetes. 8 year old granddaughter has Spina Bifida, hydrocephalus, seizures, developmental delays, Autism, and neurogenic bowel and bladder, which means catheterizing her bladder 5x a day and a nightly enema, so even with all precautions we have regular contact with her bodily fluids and we are introducing whatever we didn’t clean off our hands into her internally if we don’t remain diligent. Her older sister is mildly Autistic.my daughter-in-law has neurological issues. Every single one of those things is listed as part of the high risk groups. That’s almost my whole family. Our high school basketball team has been tested for Coronavirus because of exposure during state tournaments - the high school my older granddaughter attends and where her mom works. Yeah, I’m fearful.

 

[ChocolateMouse]

We shouldn't take extreme measures or be scared "for the sake of a few who are already susceptible to a large variety of illnesses. " Because it might "collapse the economy".

This is EXACTLY what I mean. People are listening. When you say something like this it speaks volumes about who you are and which one of these you care about more. People who know you hear which one you value more.
It's better to be kind. I would hate for you to find yourself in need of that sort of compassion yourself and find it in short supply.

 

[HenOnAJuneBug]

We shouldn't take extreme measures or be scared "for the sake of a few who are already susceptible to a large variety of illnesses. " Because it might "collapse the economy".

This is EXACTLY what I mean. People are listening. When you say something like this it speaks volumes about who you are and which one of these you care about more. People who know you hear which one you value more.
It's better to be kind. I would hate for you to find yourself in need of that sort of compassion yourself and find it in short supply.

It's not that I'm short of compassion, but the world doesn't revolve around your problems. Or mine. Surely you don't think that a collapsed economy is no big deal. Do you realize how many people would suffer and die if that happened?

 

[ChocolateMouse]

Nah, I've said what I need to say. You're welcome to defend your position of how concerned we shouldn't be for ourselves or the humans we love as aggressively as you see appropriate. Where I live we have a word for people who put nebulous economic concepts above peoples lives, as if it's impossible for society to come together and overcome them. It's probably not appropriate for BYC.

Meanwhile...
Yesterday we had a group of 6 pals over for a game night. It seems like this format of small gatherings in private quarters is going to be ideal for a while which suits me just fine - it's what we do a lot anyhow. Today we're hosting a D&D session. I changed hand towels inbetween groups, wiped the table down with a bleach solution, and I wiped down our wet erase marker mat with rubbing alcohol after cleaning it with water. Conveniently that's something I do every time anyhow. Not only does the mat get gross but the marker residue comes off better with the alcohol and it doesn't damage the mat the way bleach might.

But It's come to my attention we're low on both. Probably going to be tricky to get more but we may end up trying to get some soon anyhow.
It's going to be like pulling teeth but I might try to get my sister to let me do her grocery shopping. Aside from a history of pneumonia I'm not in a high risk group and she is. She's stubborn but I know she takes her heath seriously so maybe she'll let me. It's not like having us both go grocery shopping is going to save anyone any real work and we live 3 blocks apart.

If ya'll are looking for something fun to do indoors I have a wide variety of board game suggestions for you to seek out, especially from local game stores. They're great if you're stuck inside and way more fun than anything Milton Bradley has produced. My partner runs a board game store and I'm well versed on introductory games that will keep you well occupied and having legitimate fun indoors for hours for groups of any size and all play styles. Feel free to quote or PM me for suggestions.

 

[Wee Farmer Sarah]

Remember, every time you talk about COVID-19 being not very serious because it only effects certain people, anyone you know who has a disability or is elderly or otherwise in an at risk group is hearing that you don't think their deaths are very serious. Anyone with loved ones in those groups is hearing you don't think their loved ones deaths are very serious.

I'm young and yet I am at-risk for pneumonia because I've had it twice before and need to monitor myself in cold/flu season. My sister has no immune system due to RA medication and is 35. One of my closest friends is 29 and is pre-diabetic with thyroid issues and like me is in an at-risk group. My father is 70. One of my oldest friends in my dnd group is battling cancer right now. My partners parents are both in their late 50's.

We're listening when you say those at-risk people aren't something we should be worried about, and we should just expect deaths in their demographics.

Thank you for that. I, as well as many of our members are in the high risk group and sometimes this arrogance is just not amusing. Of course we old and ill folks matter. Perhaps not to some of you, but to the important people, we matter. And to dismiss it as no big thing? It’s been described as a mild to severe flu. Well, there is no treatment for this virus, unlike the flu. And may well have serious issues after it has run its course. So good luck to those of you who are so inconvenienced. I’m hunkering down with my peeps until this “storm” passes.

 

[Wee Farmer Sarah]

Well they can take that whatever way they want, but that's not what's meant at all. What is meant is that I think it's highly irresponsible and destructive to conduct ourselves in ways that panic society for the sake of a few who are already susceptible to a large variety of illnesses. Life must go on, and we really don't want a collapsed economy because of uncontrolled fear.

There are more important things than the economy. You need people first. And yes your post was offensive to the very many of us who have health issues that put us at risk. The young the old and disabled veterans.

 

[HenOnAJuneBug]

There are more important things than the economy. You need people first. And yes your post was offensive to the very many of us who have health issues that put us at risk. The young the old and disabled veterans.

OK, well I'm not going to get into a back and forth with people who are offended with reality, which is, the chances of this collective uninformed panic collapsing the economy are enormously greater than the chances of some boogeyman virus killing everyone.

 

[Wee Farmer Sarah]

OK, well I'm not going to get into a back and forth with people who are offended with reality, which is, the chances of this collective uninformed panic collapsing the economy are enormously greater than the chances of some boogeyman virus killing everyone.

You have a right to your opinion and whatever reality you have created for yourself. I hope it will give you some comfort when we are all self isolating to contain this “boogeyman” virus. Stay healthy.

 

[ChocolateMouse]

To put it in perspective the average death rate of corona virus is higher than the average death rate for active service USA military personnel or death in a car crash. You're more likely to live through prostate cancer than you are if you're at risk and get corona. If your're at risk (with certain health conditions or over 60) the death rate is one in ten. If you're "general population" it's still one in one hundred. Flu has a death rate of one in a thousand

It's not "just a flu". If you worry about people who get into car crashes or people overseas in the military or who have cancer, it's very reasonable to be worried about corona.

Taking sensible precautions like having two weeks of food and water in the house, having cleaning products, isolating yourself from large scale events, washing your hands, doing grocery shopping for people who are at risk, ordering products online to decrease exposure, etc. are all good ideas. Look out for the at risk people in your life especially and don't forget to check up on the ones who aren't either cause you don't know who's struggling.