Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[Molpet]

93 cases in IL
None in my county...yet

 

[BDutch]

Here's a project for @BDutch if he's so inclined. There is a 16-year-old named Sehraz in the ICU at a Dutch hospital. His name and picture make me think he's an immigrant. Many immigrants to Europe have active/latent TB because it is so prevalent in the countries they come from. According to a study, risk for death is 4.5 times greater with a viral and tubercular co-infection, than from either one alone - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6424478/

Perhaps @BDutch can be our investigator on the scene and find out if doctors have tested him for TB?

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03...outbreak-preceded-by-a-tuberculosis-epidemic/

They say his chances are 50/60.

This is the information I found about this 16 year old juvenile, from an interview :

My brother has always been healthy, went to hairdressing school and played volleyball, "says his oldest brother Shershah Mohmand (26). “All you could say is that he ate a lot of fast food.” The family decided this weekend to bring out the story of their son and brother to warn others: The coronavirus can also have major implications for patients who are not old or fragile.

 

[HenOnAJuneBug]

They say his chances are 50/60.

Did you talk with or email them?

 

[HenOnAJuneBug]

This is getting ridiculous. Doctor orders x-rays for a patient, but x-ray dept refuses because of fear of contamination. We can't keep living like this, people.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1238619716362440705

 

[Rooapalooza]

There is one reason coronavirus is a big deal, as opposed to the deaths caused by treatable chronic and acute diseases like diabetes and influenza: coronavirus affects the rich and powerful.

Celebrities and the people we have in government now could not care any less about the 45,000 people a year who die because they don't have health insurance. They don't care how many people go bankrupt and become homeless due to medical debt. They don't care about all the kids and elderly people who die of the flu every year. That doesn't happen to their own kids and parents, because they have money, therefore, why would they care?

Now there is a virus that affects them too. I'm trying not to root for the virus. It's hard when our government is giving billions of dollars of our tax money to for-profit Pharma companies to develop a cure, and those companies have said out loud that they will not make the tests or treatment available to the poor. Thanks for giving my tax dollars to billionaires to save the lives of other billionaires. They are also giving TRILLIONS of dollars to banks right now. That money would be more than enough to forgive all student debt in America or to deal with our constant public health crises. It didn't even do anything and will never go towards helping regular Americans. All it does is make our currency worth less, making the average American a little poorer.

If someone knows a defense of that spending, I would like to hear it. Really. I don't understand how this is happening. Is it true that they are also currently cutting funding to Medicare and Medicaid?


We need medicare for all. I'm not asking for handouts. I'm asking for these corrupt Pharma people to stop using our tax dollars to develop medicine, and then marking it up to such a degree that huge portions of the population can't afford it. Should people be making profits by withholding life-saving medicine from the most vulnerable in our society? What is the good of having a government at all if it only hurts people and does nothing in their time of need? Our government seems to exist now only to help the rich.

 

[HenOnAJuneBug]

We need medicare for all.

The problem with that is that the dysfunctional medical establishment will just continue on. What we need is medical system reform that cuts out all off the corruption, overbilling, waste, etc. to reduce costs so that everybody can afford it.

 

[FortCluck]

processed and microwaveable foods will go first and fast.....schools are closed, and most ppl can’t/won’t cook....as for us, well we just did some additional backyard shopping and processed another 5# of meat today! I’ve no room to start my garden inside or I would have already.....will just have to wait a couple more weeks and then we can start planting

So whenever there's stuff like this or power outages I like shopping because all the healthy foods I eat are ALWAYS in stock. I don't eat processed foods at all. Only frozen thing I eat frozen (cooked obviously) are plain veggies. All my shelf stable almond milk, rice, veggies, fruits, beans... Were all stocked without being touched.

 

[Rooapalooza]

The problem with that is that the dysfunctional medical establishment will just continue on. What we need is medical system reform that cuts out all off the corruption, overbilling, waste, etc. to reduce costs so that everybody can afford it.

To me, that's the problem with Obamacare. Medicare for all is a much more radical step. I don't know enough about the complexities of our system to understand beyond: medicare for all cuts out the middle man (the health insurance companies). Health insurance companies would still exist, but they'd be for elective procedures. Everyone would have the amount of care required to keep them healthy and alive. It wouldn't be free, we would still have tax dollars pay hospitals and doctors and all that, but there wouldn't be an extra person to pay. Obviously insurance companies have to bring in a lot more money than they give out, in order to exist. That's not a good business model when lives are on the line, and nobody is regulating how much they can charge for things.

From what I understand, the current system is basically money laundering. Insurance companies tell hospitals what to charge for things, for example, $50 for a box of tissue paper, $100 for a bottle of Tylenol. Then they say to the patient, don't worry, we'll cover you... hey look at how much money you saved? But they were the ones who overinflated the price to begin with. And their deductibles make it so the patient is paying more than enough to cover the ACTUAL costs, so their premiums are really just lining the insurance companies pockets. Is that mostly correct? Again, I know just enough about this system to notice it seems corrupt, but I don't know any real details.

 

[Rooapalooza]

So whenever there's stuff like this or power outages I like shopping because all the healthy foods I eat are ALWAYS in stock. I don't eat processed foods at all. Only frozen thing I eat frozen (cooked obviously) are plain veggies. All my shelf stable almond milk, rice, veggies, fruits, beans... Were all stocked without being touched.

So funny! I was laughing today in the grocery store because a lot of the shelves had just one item, and it was exactly what I usually buy! I'm the only weirdo who buys that brand of organic coconut milk, or collard greens, or the good kind of cheddar apparently . My store had zero beans and rice though .

 

[IamRainey]

Every other First World county in the world has figures this out. We're the only ones asking the permission of the insurance companies for what health care they'll permit for us and what they'll gouge us for it.