Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[BDutch]

Are the homeless there willing to take shelter? I guess cold would force people to on some level. Here, we have such a temperate climate year round that homeless people can resist establishing (for lack of a better word) themselves in available housing.

That's not to say there aren't days when it gets too cold or too hot to be habitable on the streets. The city sets up cooling and warming stations but some people continue to live and die on the streets on their own terms.

It's so sad to think of lives so out of control that being homeless is the only autonomy they think they have. And I say that without a trace of judgment. It's heartbreaking.

Yes of course. It's freezing during the night now. So most of them prefer a bed inside. The homeless get free meals, a shower, and a safer place to spend the night.

 

[seminolewind]

Too bad so many people will die that could have been saved had he who cannot be named taken this seriously in January. The blame will fall where it will, but that does not make up for the negligence. It is too late for coulda shoulda woulda the die is cast.

I hear the direct opposite. Depends on who you listen to. I prefer to see the timeline that list all the things that were done and when. It's easy to be negative when you sit on your butT doing nothing. ( I do not mean You or ANYONE ELSE HERE). I respect everyone's opinion here.

 

[Friendly_Lurker]

There is a story that our grandmother says when I was little. Yaks and buffaloes were (both girls) friends and they were both hairy. They used to graze together in the fields and jungles. Once they were not able to find salt.

The yak said "let me go to the Himalayas, I hear that there is salt mines on the mountains."

The buffalo said "but I hear, it's very cold in Himalayas."

The yak replied "give me your coat, when I will come back I will return your coat."

The buffalo agreed and she gave her friend her fine coat. Sadly the yak has yet not returned from the Himalayas. That's why the buffalo often looks up, to see if the yak is returning and the yak looks down to see if her friend is still waiting.


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Both pics are from internet.

I like that a lot. Do you milk the yaks? Are there different breeds of yak for milk and meat?

 

[Friendly_Lurker]

They are buffaloes (true buffaloes/water buffaloes) domesticated from Asian wild buffaloes, now critically endangered.View attachment 2071989

Water Buffaloes were domesticated twice. First in South Asia, India, Pakistan, Bangladesh etc about 5000 years ago. They have shorter rounder horns. They are triple purpose animals. They are called river type buffaloes or Riverine buffaloes.

They were again independently domesticated in East Asia, that is China around 4000 years ago. They have bow shaped horns like their wild ancestors. They are dual purpose animals. They are called swamp type buffaloes or swamp buffaloes.

A guy at church has a bison farm. I read that buffalo were never native to America, and what everyone was killing in the Wild West era were bison. Does triple purpose mean milk, meat, and hide? Do you eat your buffalo?

 

[Kabootar]

I like that a lot. Do you milk the yaks? Are there different breeds of yak for milk and meat?

Dear they are not yaks, those are buffaloes. However yaks do produce milk, but they produce considerably less milk when compared to Buffaloes. The yak milk is typically higher in fat (6-8%) when compared to cows milk, but it contains less fat than buffalo milk (7.2-12%). Yaks milk also contains more lactose when compared to cow or buffalo milk. The yak milk have a pinkish/reddish tinge unlike cow milk which is yellowish or buffalo milk which is pure white. I have tasted yak milk and if you ask me, I didn't like it.

 

[Friendly_Lurker]

Dear they are not yaks, those are buffaloes. However yaks do produce milk, but they produce considerably less milk when compared to Buffaloes. The yak milk is typically higher in fat (6-8%) when compared to cows milk, but it contains less fat than buffalo milk (7.2-12%). Yaks milk also contains more lactose when compared to cow or buffalo milk. The yak milk have a pinkish/reddish tinge unlike cow milk which is yellowish or buffalo milk which is pure white. I have tasted yak milk and if you ask me, I didn't like it.

Sorry, I forgot. I've got yaks on the brain. That's really interesting, about the milk.

 

[seminolewind]

I have a friend who lives in/grew up in the coal mining region of eastern Pa. He said to me just recently, "If this happened when I was a kid we never would have known, because we never left the farm."

Perhaps we would have been better off ?

Just saying it's a big contrast . Our communication would be really slow and .

 

[Friendly_Lurker]

Just saying it's a big contrast . Our communication would be really slow and .

You could go both ways on this. One, no one would know, and more might get sick and die. Also, they lived much farther apart and generally practiced social distancing unintentionally. A big part of the pandemic is how it travels. If our world weren't so interconnected, the virus would likely have stayed where it was. I'm not sayin an interconnected world is a bad thing, its benefits outweigh the bad sides. For example, if the outbreak had started in America, it likely wouldn't have spread but we wouldn't have resources from other countries to help us.

 

[Molpet]

Are the homeless there willing to take shelter? I guess cold would force people to on some level. Here, we have such a temperate climate year round that homeless people can resist establishing (for lack of a better word) themselves in available housing.

That's not to say there aren't days when it gets too cold or too hot to be habitable on the streets. The city sets up cooling and warming stations but some people continue to live and die on the streets on their own terms.

It's so sad to think of lives so out of control that being homeless is the only autonomy they think they have. And I say that without a trace of judgment. It's heartbreaking.

Yes some homeless refuse shelters even when it's 20f below. Some say it's because shelters are crowded. Robbery and disease run rampant. So under the bridge might be safer. I wonder how many people are close to being homeless since they have lost their jobs. Going to get crowded under those bridges.
We used to have many more mental hospitals, most have been closed. They felt that the patients were better in society, IF they take their meds. Unfortunately they feel better, think they don't need meds, and back to having issues under the bridge.
Sad situations and but for the grace of God go I

 

[IdyllwildAcres]

You really don’t get it

Not sure what you mean by this, I do get it. We are in a national emergency here.