Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[IamRainey]

this has nothing to do with POC

That's just incorrect. There is definitely more incidence and higher mortality in POC. Them's just the stats.

 

[WhyDoILikeChickens]

Oh no. Not free education and free food and free transport. XD Whatever is next, clean air and less plastic in the ocean!? Why, we'll ruin the whole dang world!

In any case, my mom died from cancer. She was in what's known as the medicaid gap where you have too much money for government assistance and not enough to actually afford to see the doctor. She had cancer for years before she was diagnosed in an ER. She died 5 years later and every month was a family meeting trying to figure out how to pay for her treatment. I was 19 and intimately involved in how much money there was and wasn't for her treatment. I payed for her family to fly to see her in the last year out of my own pocket working as a hostess in a restaurant.

My partner also falls in the medicaid gap. Healthcare through work costs 1/4 of his paycheck when we live nearly paycheck to paycheck. But he makes too much for medicare. I know - we've applied. I have NO idea what we gonna do if he gets sick. Sell the house and the chickens I guess? Go live with his parents in another state?

So yes. I DO think that people can die from being poor and not having access to healthcare as a matter of fact.

I'm sorry to hear but I relate. My mom had Copd and worked her whole life to barely afford her medical bills at the end. We all have problems, not just you.
But nothing in life is guaranteed. There is no guarantee of outcome. Some people work their whole life and barely make it while others retire early with lots to spare. Its about equal opportunity, not entitlement. You want guaranteed success.... ok great define success. Is money success? Is healthcare success? Is college success? Is rich success? Is famous success? Is happiness success? What if my success means being more successful than you but your success means having more than me? Who wins?
You mentioned undocumented workers earlier, why dont they go back to Mexico and get free healthcare?
Besides I know at least a hundred white people and a hundred black people in the same struggle, color has nothing to do with it.

 

[MROO]

No I have not heard of that sight before....

Working on giving myself time for "me" ain't easy. With everything else going on....

But you need to make ME time or you won't make it through this mess with any hope of intact sanity! I'm having trouble convincing myself, too, but I'm trying.

 

[ChocolateMouse]

I.... Don't know when you think anyone mentioned undocumented workers or mexico, but I didn't. :T Maybe you saw "construction and landscape workers" and just went there all on your ownsies but that's a you problem, really..... In fact none of that actually addresses anything I said.... So... Uh....

Kay?

 

[ChocolateMouse]

But you need to make ME time or you won't make it through this mess with any hope of intact sanity! I'm having trouble convincing myself, too, but I'm trying.

Wanna play in a D&D game then? XD We're considering doing a short module this fall....

 

[MROO]

Many of us haven't been affected by it. I think that is the prob. It's a good thing we haven't been affected by it, but it changes nothing sadly. Many of us still do not know anybody that has had it, or died from it, and we have been months in a shutdown.
Not saying it would be better if we did, just it's hard to comply with all of it when we still haven't experienced it.

From those of us who have lost friends and coworkers to this awful virus, THANK YOU, from the very bottom of my heart, for caring enough to comply. Remember key point to all of your efforts. If you follow all of the recommendations and you see no difference - no cases, no upticks, no deaths, it doesn't mean the problem isn't real. It means that whatever you're doing IS WORKING for you and yours ... and that is the whole point!

 

[cheepteach]

well said

 

[WhyDoILikeChickens]

That's just incorrect. There is definitely more incidence and higher mortality in POC. Them's just the stats.

Just a note..... in Sweden white people were more affected, in Mexico hispanics are more affected, in India Indians are more affected. The demographics of the area in relation to the outbreak tends to suggest outcome.

I.... Don't know when you think anyone mentioned undocumented workers or mexico, but I didn't. :T Maybe you saw "construction and landscape workers" and just went there all on your ownsies but that's a you problem, really..... In fact none of that actually addresses anything I said.... So... Uh....

Kay?

You are correct, it wasnt you.

 

[MROO]

I know maybe a dozen people that had the virus. Even multiple over 70 yo. None that have passed from it. I believe the virus was here last year in fall. Symptoms are blood clots and pneumonia, last year I was hospitalized with blood clots and got pneumonia that wouldn't go away. Didn't even know I had pneumonia, it showed on CT scan.
That's when "community pneumonia " basically went through everyone I know.

Have you been tested for the antibodies? If you have them, you may actually help place the beginnings of this mess - which may also help get rid of it.

 

[feather13]

In all respect this has nothing to do with POC. That is propaganda, stop spreading it.

It's a fact that the virus affects BIPOC communities disproportionately for all the reasons that have been stated in this thread: poverty, underlying health conditions caused by historical inequities, uneven access to healthcare, increased exposure due to employment, and possibly genetics. Not sure how you can say it has nothing to do with being a person of color and then go on to make baseless, stereotypical, and frankly tiring assumptions about what life is actually like for people of color like me who also happen to live in working class, majority BIPOC neighborhoods, none of whom are asking for "free college, free food, and free flying cars," but are trying to figure out the underlying causes for why this disease is, in fact, affecting some demographics more than others.