Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[IamRainey]

It’s been a hard year.

Ain't that the truth!

This year will be better and the next better still.

 

[Beer can]

 

[cassie]

I would think that in order to compare apples to apples, one would need hospitals per person. We probably don't have the amount of hospitals in the state that LA county has either.

Not exactly. The less the population density, the less the rate of transmission. The more people are crowded together the greater the rate of transmission.

I thought young people didn’t get it.

Young people are less likely to get the virus, but they do get it. some of them get very sick and some of them do die.

 

[cassie]

Not exactly. The less the population density, the less the rate of transmission. The more people are crowded together the greater the rate of transmission.

Young people are less likely to get the virus, but they do get it. some of them get very sick and some of them do die.

If you take the population of Oregon, which is roughly four million people living in a 466 million square mile area and put them all in an area of 2000 square miles you are going to have far more cases of COVID per capita than you presently have. As it is there is far less strain on the hospitals and other medical facilities in Oregon than there are in more densely populated areas.

 

[littledog]

Yes, but the virus will just mutate into something the vaccine won’t help. Everybody gets eaten by something.

The whole point of getting as many people vaccinated as quickly as possible, is to not give the virus time to mutate into some new form that the vaccine won't help.

 

[littledog]

I think we should ignore each other. I don’t get along well with your type.

Do you mean the "type" that understands science?

 

[aart]

Pondering.......
Can a fully vaccinated(both shots plus the following wait time) person carry and spread the virus?

 

[littledog]

Today I'm really thankful that my 84-y-old Mom, who lives in her condo in an Assisted Living facility in Florida, just got her 2nd vaccine.

Her place has had strict social distancing and mask mandates since last March, and strict protocols for the caregiver staff people as well. Still, quite a few residents and staff have become infected, and several have died of Covid.

I feel so relieved that everybody who lives there (my aunt and uncle live there as well) has had both rounds of vaccines. I've been worried for so long - the last time I was able to visit her was October 2020. I expect the next time I'll be able to visit will be after I've had my own vaccines? Which will be who knows when. But my Mom is presently safe, that's what counts.

 

[littledog]

Pondering.......
Can a fully vaccinated(both shots plus the following wait time) person carry and spread the virus?

I guess we don't really know for sure, pending further research. Judging by the way most viruses behave, as well as how most vaccinations work, immunity from the virus as well as the ability to transmit the virus, would decrease during the wait time after being vaccinated, and then approach zero after a certain amount of time.

But then depending on how long immunity lasts, which at this point we don't know, even vaccinated people becoming sick from the virus as well as transmitting it, could possibly happen again, after some span of time which we also don't know at this point.

This is why we need to get as many people as possible vaccinated, in as short a time as possible.

Even if immunity from the vaccine is temporary, if enough people are temporarily
immune because of vaccinations or previous infection at some point in time, the virus will find no hosts and will have nowhere to go, and will die out.

 

[Folly's place]

And may include getting booster vaccines later, fine with me!
Mary