Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[aart]

What really cracks me up is all the people here (BYC not necessarily this thread) that say they won't vaccinate their chicks for Marek's , rather build up a immunity. Won't feed medicated feed to prevent Coccidiosis, rather rely on immunity. But think a vaccine will save us humans.

I don't think it will 'save us'...but feel this virus is serious enough to participate,
same reason I wear a mask and curb/distance physical interactions.
I've never had a flu nor shingles shot, never vaccinated my chicks...
....but I did get a tetanus shot after being bitten by a dog.

 

[KarynVA]

What often gets overlooked in the 'don't vaccinate; allow body to develop its natural immunity' perspective is that it can work for viruses that humans (or poultry) have been exposed to for generations. Our immune systems are primed to recognize those viruses and can fight them without intervention from medical technologies.

The thing about covid is it's entirely new; yes there are SARS viruses but this one is unique enough that our immune systems have no idea it's harmful. THAT is the reason why getting vaccinated against covid is necessary. I am a person who used to never get flu shots because I wanted to develop my own immunity, and that worked for me for most of my life (now that I'm getting older I prefer to get the shot just because ... well, I'm old. My immune system isn't as quick as it used to be, just like the rest of me, heh.) So I understand the whole natural immunity idea and I agree with it. Just not for covid.

 

[Folly's place]

'Developing natural immunity' isn't so great for individuals, it's more of a herd health concept.
In human terms, look at measles: most Europeans had generations to have survivors, who then had offspring who tended to get sick but not die, usually. When measles hit native Americans, who hadn't had that history, many many died. Also smallpox, which was a bit less lethal for populations who had experience with it, and killed so many native Americans.
New diseases affecting populations for the first time are another story.
And influenza, don't forget 1918!!! This C-19 virus has killed so many, but nowhere near what happened in 1918- 1920.
Vaccines, from childhood on, and public health, are why so many of us are alive today. Those 'good old days' weren't really so good...
Mary

 

[Folly's place]

Lets talk about tuberculosis: a horror story. Go ahead and get good exposure so you can 'develop natural immunity'!
Really, just don't.
And the reason we pasturize milk, and test and slaughter any Tb positive cattle, is because of childhood Tb. My father remembers it, my mother-in-law lost a lung to it, and it's here in Michigan in the deer and some cattle herds right now.
Mary

 

[Hayden Goseek]

When the Covid was starting a year ago a lot of medical professionals assumed you could get immunity automatically because it was a virus. Debbie Downer here had to remind (teach) them that Dengue Fever virus can be caught multiple times and it gets worse with each bout.

 

[riss]

Just found this thread and wow did it change my life a lot. Probably was the worst year of my life and seems to keep following me. I just can't wait or all of it to go away.

It has given me severe anxiety and isolated me from people so for long that even being around people if it's just a few I get anxious.

I can no longer eat in restaurants not cause of them being closed but it's too many people I freak out.

I can thank covid for my 1,000's of dollars in therapy since I had a session once a week for 7 months now for $200 a session!

 

[riss]

Sure has made dating harder for me

 

[topochico225]

My parents and oldest brother are vaccinated (at risk and essential workers) and my next older brother will be vaccinated soon. I can't be vaccinated yet, I'm not qualified, but I'm praying I can be soon so I can go back to normal. I'm low-risk anyway, I double mask, social distance, haven't eaten inside a restaurant in over a year. Yes, I do miss normality. But is making only you comfortable worth risking the lives of potentially hundreds of people? I've been forced to quarantine several times over this past year when I got exposed. I am good about COVID regulations, etc. but life happens. I'm still in-person at school and church. Haven't gotten COVID yet, which is a great blessing.

What deeply saddens me (among many things) about this virus is the blatant ignorance and selfishness of people. If they could fit a microchip into that vaccine, your phone would be a LOT smaller. Going into Target recently with a friend, she was reluctant to put on a mask that barely covered her mouth and nose- I had to ask her to put a mask on. She constantly refers to COVID as the "fancy flu," how it's fake, not a big deal, brags about indoor maskless sleepovers, etc. Whenever she says this stuff, I'm floored. Okay, go tell my immunocompromised father and brother that it's not a big deal if they get this virus that would likely kill them. Go tell the families of the nearly 3 million dead COVID victims that it's fake. Go ahead- tell them that it doesn't matter. Imply that your comfort and happiness matters more than the greater good and the countless lives at stake that could be lost because you really wanted that sleepover. That that spouse, sibling, mother, father, best friend, relative- that their deaths were because of "government brainwashing."

Sorry for the long post, I don't have anyone to talk to about this IRL.

 

[cheepteach]

don't apologize!! we all have dealt with this craziness way too long but pretending it doesn't exist is not helping! mask up/stay apart/be safe!

 

[aart]

I can thank covid for my 1,000's of dollars in therapy since I had a session once a week for 7 months now for $200 a session!

Count and thank your lucky stars(parents?) to be able to afford that kind of care.
Some folks can't pay their rent, buy food and/or critical medicines.
Most of use are dealing with the psychological ramifications of lack of physical closeness/contacts.