Coronavirus, Covid 19 Discussion and How It Has Affected Your Daily Life Chat Thread

[saysfaa]

Didn't know there was another vaccine coming out, maybe this one will be more effective than the three in use now.

Dec 31 - Novavax Inc (NVAX.O) will submit a request to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to authorize its COVID-19 vaccine next month"
Data released in June from a late-stage U.S. trial showed the vaccine was more than 90% effective
"While other vaccines trick the body's cells into creating parts of the virus that can trigger the immune system, the Novavax vaccine takes a different approach. It contains the spike protein of the coronavirus itself, but formulated as a nanoparticle, which cannot cause disease."

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/587830-novavax-files-covid-19-vaccine-data-with-fda

It was approved by EU a while ago. Months ago, some of my family thought to go to Germany to get it if it either seemed better than the treatment options for covid or if it came down to keeping jobs and it didn't have the issues the mRNA versions do.

None of us plan to anymore. Treatment options are the better choice for us and we don't think it will be helpful in keeping jobs - seems to be forcing the mRNA at any/all costs is the point rather than what help it may give. Otherwise, natural immunity would count, for one thing.

It is better on the issues but still not good. For one thing, it still uses the spike. I get that doesn't cause covid. It is still the part that causes the damage to the blood vessels. It might be enough a small enough amount of spikes to not matter; I would probably risk it at my age and health situation if it was only that. I think there will be a LOT more mutations not only because of how much of the virus is around since so many people have it but also because the new pill for it works by causing mutations. Theoretically, it causes so many mutations that none survive replication at all.

Edit to add: the thing about the mutations is immunity to the spike only doesn't work when the spike is what mutates. Natural immunity works if any of the parts didn't mutate.

 

[STACEYH]

I’m betting that when everyone goes back to work, school, etc. this coming week, we’ll have an Omicron explosion. I’m vaxxed and will get boosted soon and am wearing a mask indoors but fully expect to get it.

They did a shut down here a couple days ago.

 

[Beer can]

Interesting. Any data on possible side effects from their trials?

Haven't read that far yet, just happy there is some further attempts to get this monster under control. Also happy it sounds like maybe a more traditional normal vaccine. I personally think a lot of the vaccine hesitancy comes from the rna vax technology that has never been used before. I know it concerned me, why I would have preferred JJ , but it was shutdown when I decided just stick me with something and got the phizer double deuce.
Then I got covid anyway....

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

Haven't read that far yet, just happy there is some further attempts to get this monster under control. Also happy it sounds like maybe a more traditional normal vaccine. I personally think a lot of the vaccine hesitancy comes from the rna vax technology that has never been used before. I know it concerned me, why I would have preferred JJ , but it was shutdown when I decided just stick me with something and got the phizer double deuce.
Then I got covid anyway....

This isnt traditional tech. Its not rna either. Its nanotech.

 

[Beer can]

I’ve been tracking this for a while waiting for them to apply for US approval. Sadly, even if it gets US approval I’m not sure they’ll make it available. Some articles I’ve read have touted how it’ll be beneficial in getting “poorer countries” vaccinated. I believe it’s in use in Indonesia, Philippines, and 1 or 2 other places already. There doesn’t seem to be as much $$ in it as there is Pfizer/Moderna. It does look promising though. And it’s a US based company (albeit the serum is coming from India-which is why it is many months delayed in actually getting to market.) it’s similar to how DTAP, hib, HPV, hep B, and several other common vax we have in the US work.

Read that also, thanks for posting.

 

[Beer can]

So I have a question. What should one do if they have the sniffles and a low-grade fever but can't get an appointment to be tested until 6 days out? Asking for a friend.

Did you see that pop up news thing, "woman self quarantines on flight" woman tests seven times before boarding flight and then tests on flight because of sudden sore throat and positive? ...........

 

[casportpony]

Did you see that pop up news thing, "woman self quarantines on flight" woman tests seven times before boarding flight and then tests on flight because of sudden sore throat and positive? ...........

I missed that.

 

[Beer can]

This isnt traditional tech. Its not rna either. Its nanotech.

nanotech !,
Doesn't bother me as long as it works.

 

[BigBlueHen53]

She won't. A virus that the vaxxed can still spread may. You both are in my prayers.

Thank you.

 

[Ninjasquirrel]

nanotech !,
Doesn't bother me as long as it works.

I was just saying that the new tech is what has some folks scared. My father was afraid of it too thats why he got the j & j instead