Coyote War...Its On!

[chickortreat]

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I agree but put yourself in the position of many chicken owners on here. They hear a squawking from the direction of their birds, grab a firearm, go outside and see a predator with one of their chickens in its mouth. It's going to be WW III with bullets going in every direction and little thought to where they're going to end up.

That's why I added......"and nothing else." You are responsible for the shot fired, regardless of where it goes. Like I said, I'm thankful to live in the country. I wouldn't live anywhere else.

As to "proper permits", that should explain what it's all about....money! For a sum, you can buy a permit for just about anything. And it's a shame it's come to this. Who gave anyone the authority to "sell" you the right to do something? Oh, gotta go.....my license to eat on Saturdays is expired and I've gotta renew 'cause I'm getting hungry. Might-as-well renew my "scratch-where-it-itches" license while I'm at it.

 

[RedReiner]

 

[RedReiner]

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I agree but put yourself in the position of many chicken owners on here. They hear a squawking from the direction of their birds, grab a firearm, go outside and see a predator with one of their chickens in its mouth. It's going to be WW III with bullets going in every direction and little thought to where they're going to end up.

Right you are, Woodmort. Bullets cross fencelines. We own 16 acres where we keep our horses. People used to pester us to deer hunt or target practice on our land. My response was for them to go buy their own property like we did. And that standing in the middle of our land, shooting in any direction, that darn bullet would travel accross property lines so the answer was NO. We own guns and know how to use them. Our land is off limits for freeloaders.

The OP is showing remarkable restraint and responsibility with firearms. I truly hope RedReiner that you find the solution to your dilemma and can blow their heads off on your next shot.

Practice makes dead coyotes.

I have seen some really stupid people with guns, including police officers. one of the worst was a small town officer who was turned down by the county...apparently for good reason. my friend hit a deer with her car at the edge of town, but didnt kill it. was wounded badly so the officer gets there, sees the wounded deer in someones front yard so he pulls out his revolver and attempts to shoot it to put it out of its misery...he shoots over it and right through the front door of the house behind it! Lucky home owners were not in front of the door...
Another needed to dispatch a hit deer and did not want to shoot it in front of the school bus full of kids stopped for the accident...so he drug it over to a mud puddle and stood on its head in the puddle to drown it...in front of the bus full of kids...
My property is like a split level lol. house and barns on the flat at the bottom of the hill, then go up the hill and its flat on top. behind me is a 20 acre tract of woods. neighbor on right is on top the hill, one on left is level with my house. Road out front. I make sure the hill is behind whatever I am going to shoot at. I have no desire to nail my neighbor or one of their critters.
I love my mini 14, it is the only gun I have ever shot that did not make me ear ringing deaf. I dont have time to grab ear plugs when I spot that dang yote and my DH said open your mouth when you shoot and it wont be so loud, so I did and was surprised that it worked. today if not raining am going to target practice and make sure its sighted in for me.

 

[bambi]

When visiting my niece in Plano Tx. I could hear the coyote's as they lured a poor dog into their trap I don't think I will ever get the sound outof my head. It seemed they took their sweet time killing that poor dog. It was to far away to doanything about it. New outlook on Coyote's after this experience

 

[aprophet]

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yes they are! even home made ones lol. open season on coyotes, have to have a hunting license unless coyote is causing harm to your property...that would be my dogs and chickens. use of recorded calls are prohibited for Elk, Turkey and Waterfowl. Traps that squeeze have lots of regulations and you must have a trapping license. Snares are illegal. few other regs out there but coyotes only have a few.

you might try checking with your local DNR agent, a lot of time when wildlife are doing damage there are different laws in the controlling of them then if you are hunting or fur trapping I have seen a large Pvc pipe used to trap yotes 10-15 ' long one end on a hill the bottom end buried in the dirt yote slides down and cannot get out because of the slick PVC and the claws on the paws the pipe was 18-24" in diameter . bait was a decomposed chicken

 

[babalubird]

Plano isn't that far from me. Was that a very small breed of dog, I hope?

I own a .22 but don't know how to use it. Bought it to learn but lessons are so expensive and I have a fear of guns I can't seem to get past. Very frustrating because I know I must learn to use one before moving to the farm and getting small livestock to protect.

Good luck getting that coyote. Those suckers are so darn smart!

Connie

 

[bambi]

I couldn't see the dog only could hear what was going on. You could hear a dog barking in the distance then I could hear the coyote then you could hear the other coyote's answering. By the sound the dog was moving then you heard the attack and it seemed like for ever before it stopped. After hearing this if I ever see a coyote again on my property it is not going to live another day. We use to have a couple of them come up to the fence and just stand there looking I thought it was the coolest thing but not anymore.

 

[luvmychixandducks]

Here in Massachusetts we are pestered by the coy-wolves originally from Canada, and severely restrictive rules on shooting gives them an almost retaliation free environment.
I say almost, because I have a neighbor who raises goats and meat chickens, and the day he did his butchering, the smell of the byproducts of 100 chickens caused the coyotes to circle his yard making a loud racket. This was followed by reports from his 12 gauge , which resulted in calls to the local police. Of course, when asked, nobody heard nothin' as we all would like to see them gone.
We had an old dog who came to us in the puppies across america program years ago, and he was born wild in New Mexico according to the shelter. He was a cross between a Great Pyranese and a Border collie- and hated coyotes with a passion.
He slept in the living room, and at night we would her him growl and sure enough coyotes would be seen trotting down the middle of the street.
We have a leash law, but he was running free (accompanied by human owner) in a wooded area close to home and encountered a denning pair of coyotes with pups. Normally they run away, but the old guy was a threat to the pups so both parents engaged him in a doggie rumble.
Even at his advanced age, he was so much larger than both yotes, that he more than held his own. When finally called off, he exited the woods out of breath, but seemed pleased with himself.
He is gone now, a victim of a stroke at 14 years, and my critters miss having him around- with all of the snow this year, food is at a premium, and I find coyote prints around my duck pen after every storm. They checked out the pigeon loft as well as the bunny cages, looking for unprotected or underprotected pets. None to be found this year- as long as the ducks keep their heads inside the chain link door, they will stay safe.

 

[RedReiner]

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yes they are! even home made ones lol. open season on coyotes, have to have a hunting license unless coyote is causing harm to your property...that would be my dogs and chickens. use of recorded calls are prohibited for Elk, Turkey and Waterfowl. Traps that squeeze have lots of regulations and you must have a trapping license. Snares are illegal. few other regs out there but coyotes only have a few.

you might try checking with your local DNR agent, a lot of time when wildlife are doing damage there are different laws in the controlling of them then if you are hunting or fur trapping I have seen a large Pvc pipe used to trap yotes 10-15 ' long one end on a hill the bottom end buried in the dirt yote slides down and cannot get out because of the slick PVC and the claws on the paws the pipe was 18-24" in diameter . bait was a decomposed chicken

not sure that DNR here has anything to do with it, Fish and Game dept has all the regulations and requirements on the website. Coyotes are open season year round. license required. If they are causing damage or threatening your property there are no rules against shooting it.
the PVC pipe thing sounds kind of interesting. wouldnt cause any pain and torture while trapped. hmmm.... I have an excavator maybe I will sink a big pipe!

 

[theFox]

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you might try checking with your local DNR agent, a lot of time when wildlife are doing damage there are different laws in the controlling of them then if you are hunting or fur trapping I have seen a large Pvc pipe used to trap yotes 10-15 ' long one end on a hill the bottom end buried in the dirt yote slides down and cannot get out because of the slick PVC and the claws on the paws the pipe was 18-24" in diameter . bait was a decomposed chicken

not sure that DNR here has anything to do with it, Fish and Game dept has all the regulations and requirements on the website. Coyotes are open season year round. license required. If they are causing damage or threatening your property there are no rules against shooting it.
the PVC pipe thing sounds kind of interesting. wouldnt cause any pain and torture while trapped. hmmm.... I have an excavator maybe I will sink a big pipe!

Frequently Fish and Game departments have zero authority to dictate the means and conditions under which one may protect their property. Two different set of rules apply.

For example, one can not legally take animals using a knife while hunting. That is not true when protecting your life.