Cream crested legbar cockerel

[ScottyGill]

I hope I’m in the right place now? Just wanted to ask anyone that might know does my cockerel have the correct markings etc for breed

 

[EggSighted4Life]

Hi there, I see you are in Scotland.

Can I figure that means you are looking towards the UK standard of perfection? I have not studied this breeds' SOP or raised it. But the biggest thing I can see right now that looks a little off to me the excessive size of the crest. I have not seen them that large in this breed before and think it should be smaller. Also not digging his comb... kinda looks a little like sprigs. But pics don't always tell the whole story. It may be standard comb points that look funky due to the amount of wave in the comb?? One article I read while looking for good info for you stated they could have a rose comb instead of straight. But I didn't see many other jiving with that.

Here is one pretty good article with a great description...
https://www.thehappychickencoop.com/cream-legbar-chicken/

Another article with great descriptions...
https://poultrykeeper.com/chicken-breeds/legbar-chickens/

This is a nice looking group from google images.. for your comparison to what you are seeing in person...

And another google image that was just so pleasing to the eye, it seems like another good example (of coloring) according to what I've seen in other breeds that I have worked with...

I try to rush decisions and grow out all possible breeding birds to give them a chance to mature into their full potential. Since your guy is still young I would say give him a chance as feather color can change a bit and he looks like he's got a good start!

Here is a good thread and discussion on Legbars, including cream...
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/chicken-breed-focus-legbar.1163832/#post-18306677

I know it's not exactly the answer you were looking for... but I hope it provide lots of useful and helpful information, none the less!

 

[ScottyGill]

Hi there, I see you are in Scotland.

Can I figure that means you are looking towards the UK standard of perfection? I have not studied this breeds' SOP or raised it. But the biggest thing I can see right now that looks a little off to me the excessive size of the crest. I have not seen them that large in this breed before and think it should be smaller. Also not digging his comb... kinda looks a little like sprigs. But pics don't always tell the whole story. It may be standard comb points that look funky due to the amount of wave in the comb?? One article I read while looking for good info for you stated they could have a rose comb instead of straight. But I didn't see many other jiving with that.

Here is one pretty good article with a great description...
https://www.thehappychickencoop.com/cream-legbar-chicken/

Another article with great descriptions...
https://poultrykeeper.com/chicken-breeds/legbar-chickens/

This is a nice looking group from google images.. for your comparison to what you are seeing in person...
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And another google image that was just so pleasing to the eye, it seems like another good example (of coloring) according to what I've seen in other breeds that I have worked with...

I try to rush decisions and grow out all possible breeding birds to give them a chance to mature into their full potential. Since your guy is still young I would say give him a chance as feather color can change a bit and he looks like he's got a good start!

Here is a good thread and discussion on Legbars, including cream...
https://www.backyardchickens.com/threads/chicken-breed-focus-legbar.1163832/#post-18306677

I know it's not exactly the answer you were looking for... but I hope it provide lots of useful and helpful information, none the less!

Hi no I’m not looking to see if he’s perfect. I’m just looking to see if he’s good enough. I wondered about a rose comb. What I’ve read though means his comb is likely to be less of a problem in our Scottish winters as less likely to get frostbite if it’s not so huge. I also think he’s maybe got too much copper in his comb. He’s still not very big so maybe he’ll grow into it. Thank you for your lovely helpful post. So right now I’m thinking his colouring is not too bad, it’s his head that’s the issue but mainly i was asking to just see if ever it felt too much to have a cockerel, is he sellable. We had to cull our BCM cockerel last week. I just think this one feels to me to special but he’s also my firstborn!! Incubating got me attached. But going forward to add a few more to our garden I know the eggs from the CCL pullet and possible the olive egger who has a CCL dad should have autosexed chicks.

 

[EggSighted4Life]

possible the olive egger who has a CCL dad should have autosexed chicks.

I doubt it, or at least don't know how. But maybe it's one that isn't crossing my mind right now. I know crossing the CCL hen to BCM cock would give sex links but not sure about the opposite cross or auto sexing as the two are not the same. (popcorn means I'm interested. )

I do agree with your personal assessment about him. Whether he is sell-able or not really depends on your personal market. In my market, it often takes about 3 weeks for really good response/homes.

First hatched boys can feel quite special! Especially if they are "friendly lap boys". Which has been a death sentence here because *many* (not all) "friendly" (human misunderstanding of CONFIDENT) juvenile cockerels can become disrespectful little jerks who don't "fear" you once their mating hormones kick in. Very often in the chicken world, fear equals respect... of your personal space. My first attacking boy that I was soooo attached to and telling myself he was a "rare" breed and so gorgeous for my breeding program... Took a long time before finally deciding that he would do well to take a long hot bath with lots of aromatic veggies! I almost waited too long of the relentless crowing AT me, the stalking and pretending to do busy work when I looked at him, and the attacks to my back of I let my guard down. It almost ruined roosters for me for good. But thankfully I learned my lesson... the meaner the roo the sweeter the stew!

That was the only cockerel out of well over a hundred that actually attacked me. I have not made or allowed anymore to be lap boys, in addition to learning other earlier communication skills to let them know that I claim my personal space.... may not have relevance to your situation... but just in case that was why the BCM had to go. Those are my personal favorite so far... FBCM and real Ameraucana.

Best wishes on your chicken adventures!

 

[ScottyGill]

I doubt it, or at least don't know how. But maybe it's one that isn't crossing my mind right now. I know crossing the CCL hen to BCM cock would give sex links but not sure about the opposite cross or auto sexing as the two are not the same. (popcorn means I'm interested. )

I do agree with your personal assessment about him. Whether he is sell-able or not really depends on your personal market. In my market, it often takes about 3 weeks for really good response/homes.

First hatched boys can feel quite special! Especially if they are "friendly lap boys". Which has been a death sentence here because *many* (not all) "friendly" (human misunderstanding of CONFIDENT) juvenile cockerels can become disrespectful little jerks who don't "fear" you once their mating hormones kick in. Very often in the chicken world, fear equals respect... of your personal space. My first attacking boy that I was soooo attached to and telling myself he was a "rare" breed and so gorgeous for my breeding program... Took a long time before finally deciding that he would do well to take a long hot bath with lots of aromatic veggies! I almost waited too long of the relentless crowing AT me, the stalking and pretending to do busy work when I looked at him, and the attacks to my back of I let my guard down. It almost ruined roosters for me for good. But thankfully I learned my lesson... the meaner the roo the sweeter the stew!

That was the only cockerel out of well over a hundred that actually attacked me. I have not made or allowed anymore to be lap boys, in addition to learning other earlier communication skills to let them know that I claim my personal space.... may not have relevance to your situation... but just in case that was why the BCM had to go. Those are my personal favorite so far... FBCM and real Ameraucana.

Best wishes on your chicken adventures!

Thanks. He’s not a friendly lap chicken. He was at first but not any more and that’s as bad as it’s getting he’s 16 weeks now. He keeps his distance and I am very quiet around them and only one comes on to my knee when I sit in with them. I don’t Let him peck me which is usually just out of interest though the girls are usually wanting to peck at shiny things just as much as he is interested.

I doubt it, or at least don't know how. But maybe it's one that isn't crossing my mind right now. I know crossing the CCL hen to BCM cock would give sex links but not sure about the opposite cross or auto sexing as the two are not the same. (popcorn means I'm interested. )

I do agree with your personal assessment about him. Whether he is sell-able or not really depends on your personal market. In my market, it often takes about 3 weeks for really good response/homes.

First hatched boys can feel quite special! Especially if they are "friendly lap boys". Which has been a death sentence here because *many* (not all) "friendly" (human misunderstanding of CONFIDENT) juvenile cockerels can become disrespectful little jerks who don't "fear" you once their mating hormones kick in. Very often in the chicken world, fear equals respect... of your personal space. My first attacking boy that I was soooo attached to and telling myself he was a "rare" breed and so gorgeous for my breeding program... Took a long time before finally deciding that he would do well to take a long hot bath with lots of aromatic veggies! I almost waited too long of the relentless crowing AT me, the stalking and pretending to do busy work when I looked at him, and the attacks to my back of I let my guard down. It almost ruined roosters for me for good. But thankfully I learned my lesson... the meaner the roo the sweeter the stew!

That was the only cockerel out of well over a hundred that actually attacked me. I have not made or allowed anymore to be lap boys, in addition to learning other earlier communication skills to let them know that I claim my personal space.... may not have relevance to your situation... but just in case that was why the BCM had to go. Those are my personal favorite so far... FBCM and real Ameraucana.

Best wishes on your chicken adventures!

Ah I see, I was told that the sex linked one would give me auto sexed chicks but maybe I was taken for an idiot! As far as my cockerel goes I think we’re doing ok. He was friendly when little bit not now. We can pick him up and carry him round when we want to but I don’t try to get them to come to me to sit on me. Though one pullet likes to the others don’t. He does come near my feet for treat time and isn’t scared but if go into the run and I stand up and walk forward he backs off. He is patrolling and looks out for the girls and sorts their squabbles out firmly but gently. He’s 16 weeks. It’s looking ok to me based on what I’ve read but I won’t let him boss us. I have been doing the things we have read about. I gave up on idea of cuddling chickens. The BCM we culled was a nightmare. He was a bully with the girls and he jumped to sit on me all the time. My guess was he wasn’t winning with the cockerel so was fighting for his place with the girls. It’s all calm right now!

 

[Clairemarie1982]

I am of no help, just wanted to say that is a good looking chicken! I have a cream legbar hen and she’s my fav

 

[ScottyGill]

I am of no help, just wanted to say that is a good looking chicken! I have a cream legbar hen and she’s my fav

Thank you. We're starting into week 18 and he's still wonderful.

 

[Clairemarie1982]

Thank you. We're starting into week 18 and he's still wonderful.

Aww that’s nice!! By week 18 my Easter Egger rooster was attacking and drawing blood on us! But our 7 month old Silkie is lovely. Hope your little guy stays sweet!

 

[ScottyGill]

Aww that’s nice!! By week 18 my Easter Egger rooster was attacking and drawing blood on us! But our 7 month old Silkie is lovely. Hope your little guy stays sweet!

I’m so so so hoping!! We’re away on Holiday and the dog walker/pet sitter is looking after them. She reports no issues. Did you have any warning signs. The Black Copper marans we culled was a little hooligan who showed no respect for the others at all.

 

[Clairemarie1982]

Our Easter Egger rooster we got when he was 1 day old. By the 2nd day we saw him chest bump with another chick. At that point we still thought it was a hen! At 5.5 weeks when they were still in the house my husband heard him attempt to crow and I told him he was crazy. It seemed that this rooster developed faster than usual. My children and I have been nothing but kind and gentle with this guy. And by about 3.5 months it got to the point where we could not go near the coop or the hens without being attacked by him. By 5 months he would run to the backdoor when he would hear it open and attack us and that’s when it became too much. The children were too afraid to go out and play. We were lucky to find a family in town who was wanting a rooster. Now the only rooster we have is the Silkie and we have none of the above problems! Hoping your little guy stays sweet. I know not all roosters are aggressive and wild! He is definitely a cute one.