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I was very confused by that because I did not see the male down color call for a head spot in the sop i could find but the head spot seems like a strong male marking.
WHmarans,

Since both the male and female CCLS chicks can have a dot on the head, you have to look for the chipmunk stripe (I look for it to be a triangle on the female). Then I look at whether or not the spot is big and spotty or faint. Faint plus the triangle means female in CCL. Big and spotty means male. And if it really confusing as to the sex, the chick should be marked and not used for breeding.

Another method is to look at the eye-liner. On a male, the white or silver patch can intrude into the black eye-liner. This is similar to how Welsummers can be sexed as chicks. The male Welsummers will have messy a messy eye-liner while the females will be dark and well-defined.

But as I said, if you cannot tell right away, you should tag the chick and think twice about using any chick with confusing autosexing markers in a breeding program.

Below is an example of a female CCL that had a headspot. In this case, the triangle is clearly defined, as well as the eye-liner. I need to take an updated picture of her at 8 weeks but so far she has turned into very beautiful girl with silver, cream, and absolutely no gold.
 
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Thank you! I don't know if I "need" a roo of this combo but I just like to always have an accompanying roo for my ladies.
you never know he might be one of the most stunning roosters you have ever seen. will be nice to see what he looks like as he matures.
 
But didn't nicalandia just say the marking is the same even if the chick is heterozygous for the sexlinked barring gene? So that makes me think the marking would be the same for crosses?
the pattern should be almost identical...

e+/eb B/b+ males will look like e+/e+ B/B males but abit darker in nature as the double barring will dilute the chick down....

e+/eb B/- females will look like e+/e+ B/- females..
 
Wait, now that its all dry and fluffy I think I may finally have a little boy CCL x GLW - what do you think of that headspot? I am going by what nicalandia said - that this was an autosexing combo. I have no genetics background so I don't have any more info than that I'm afraid
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Thats a Female.... the headspot is Cream/yellow not brown...LOL...
 
Thats a Female.... the headspot is Cream/yellow not brown...LOL...
you might be wrong how do you know that the GLW wont effect the color of the head spot. on a cream legbar its yellow or cream. how are we so sure the GLW doesnt effect the color of the head spot. ive never seen a more perfect round spot. nor have i ever seen anything like this ones spot in a CCL male of female.

Keep us posted familypendragon. it will be interesting to see if this does turn out to be a male. Would be cool if the GLW does make a gold spot on the males. After all the CCL males passes his genes to the females and the GLW female passes hers to the males.
 
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you might be wrong how do you know that the GLW wont effect the color of the head spot. on a cream legbar its yellow or cream. how are we so sure the GLW doesnt effect the color of the head spot

how do I know? well thats simple. pure Barred e+/e+ males have a cream/yellow headspot, and pure Barred eb/eb males have a cream/yellow headspot, so a e+/eb chick that looks wildtype will have a cream/yellow headspot also...
 
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I just wish not to coment on it



Barred Cochins like Barred rocks should be Extended Black(E/E) at the e locus, the Extended Black gene is Dominant over e+ wildtype gene found on CCL, I am not sure how would you get Tan colored birds out of this cross...
lol you can be un certain sometimes buddie. Im wrong about allot of things its ok. it makes your genetics knowledge stronger to find out why something happens unlike you expected it to.

Id love to learn about this from you. the tan ones are my favorite
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