Cream Legbar Hybrid Thread

[CibolaChooks]

Yeah shes the only new one whos started laying in this pen. That roosters mom laid the exact same egg. I had two of that roosters sisters one laid the same peachy egg and one laid a green egg. Its strange becaues his mom laid the same peachy color but her sister laid green. Kinda weird her daughters were just like her and her sister. How often does this hapoen with mutts where egg colors dont mix and pullets will lay diffrent colors from the same parents

 

[HaplessRunner]

Would it make more sense if this roo was the father of this girl. He was in a diffrent pen but this girl just started laying and her egg is peachy. Mother was a brown egg laying barred cochin. I was positive it was my cl that bred the cochin but now im not sure. Her egg is the middle one

That rooster looks like a wheaten ameraucana but without the beard and muffs which is a genetic fault.

 

[CibolaChooks]

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That rooster looks like a wheaten ameraucana but without the beard and muffs which is a genetic fault.

he has a beard its just picked out he is an ee but some type of game too

 

[CibolaChooks]

 

[CibolaChooks]

Heres his parents. Cubalaya are the only one i know that come out colored liked this so diffrently.

 

[CibolaChooks]

The two white birds are that roos parents

 

[dretd]

Quote: There is an interesting lecture about incubation given by U of A Dr Keith Bramwell:

that has some outstanding content. Audio is so-so.

At about 13 minutes he starts talking about fertilization in the hen and it continues until about 20 minutes.

The first roo's sperm is not removed but covered over by the new rooster's sperm in the hen.

In a nutshell, he tells us that the hen has sperm-storage tubules that act as a reservoir for the rooster's sperm. The sperm that goes in first is the last to be removed/used. Example experiment: If you have a white hen with a white rooster (expect white chicks) then remove him and place in a black rooster (expect black chicks) you will get black chicks from eggs collected starting on the second day from putting the new rooster in if that black rooster is observed mating with the hen.

So in this case, if the CL rooster initially bred the hen and his sperm covered over the SS's sperm in the tubule but the SS sperm is still viable. If the CL stopped breeding the hen for a few days, the reserved SS sperm would then fertilize the eggs at that time until another roo bred the hen or until the SS sperm was exhausted. Alternatively, if the CL was unsuccessful at breeding her for some reason (fertility problem, inexperience), the SS sperm will still be there to fertilize eggs until the sperm is used up or until covered over by another roosters sperm.

One person on the video in the audience states that he had a hen that was not exposed to a roo and she laid a fertile egg at 60 days from last exposure.

 

[ronott1]

There is an interesting lecture about incubation given by U of A Dr Keith Bramwell:

that has some outstanding content. Audio is so-so.

At about 13 minutes he starts talking about fertilization in the hen and it continues until about 20 minutes.

The first roo's sperm is not removed but covered over by the new rooster's sperm in the hen.

In a nutshell, he tells us that the hen has sperm-storage tubules that act as a reservoir for the rooster's sperm. The sperm that goes in first is the last to be removed/used. Example experiment: If you have a white hen with a white rooster (expect white chicks) then remove him and place in a black rooster (expect black chicks) you will get black chicks from eggs collected starting on the second day from putting the new rooster in if that black rooster is observed mating with the hen.

So in this case, if the CL rooster initially bred the hen and his sperm covered over the SS's sperm in the tubule but the SS sperm is still viable. If the CL stopped breeding the hen for a few days, the reserved SS sperm would then fertilize the eggs at that time until another roo bred the hen or until the SS sperm was exhausted. Alternatively, if the CL was unsuccessful at breeding her for some reason (fertility problem, inexperience), the SS sperm will still be there to fertilize eggs until the sperm is used up or until covered over by another roosters sperm.

One person on the video in the audience states that he had a hen that was not exposed to a roo and she laid a fertile egg at 60 days from last exposure.

Edited:

Thank you for posting the link. This talk has been used to justify not waiting long enough for breeding and egg selling purposes. Dr. Bramwell says to wait longer to be sureand that "super Sperm" of the new cockerel does not always remove the old sperm from the Hen. It seems that a lot of Breeders do not hear that part of the talk.

It is a nice theory but does not hold up to personal experience of many poultry owners, breeders and those of us that have purchased eggs that were not pure because the breeder only waited three weeks to start collecting eggs.

Ask the person you are getting hatching egg from how long the the breeding flock has been with the rooster and do not buy them if it has not been at least 30 days.

 

[Laingcroft]

I've been burned at 5 weeks with my own flock.

Here's a link to the U of Kentucky Poultry Extension site FAQ with the info below, (FAQ #33). http://www2.ca.uky.edu/smallflocks/FAQ.html#Q33

"I have a small group of Araucana hens but they have been with a mix of roosters, including a Barred Plymouth Rock. I want to breed true Araucanas. How long do I have to separate the Plymouth Rock rooster from the hens before incubating the eggs to ensure the offspring will be Araucana pure?
Hens can lay fertile eggs for several months after they have mated with a rooster, but the percent of eggs laid that will be fertile decreases dramatically after a couple of weeks. A few sperm have been known to be viable for several months after a mating, though they are rare. This is possible since the hens have sperm storage sacks in their reproductive tract that slowly releases the sperm from a mating over time. With the addition of a new sperm source (i.e., the Araucana rooster rather than the Barred Plymouth Rock) the remaining sperm from the Plymouth Rock will be out numbered by the sperm from the Araucana rooster so 99% of the offspring should be from the new rooster - but you still might get the occasional chick fathered by the Plymouth Rock, but the odds go down dramatically over time."

 

[insanity]

Hi,
I am working on reading this whole thread but 96 pages is taking awhile. I am planning on putting a mostly white splash (he has 1 colored feather) EE roo over CL hens. Does anyone have examples/ ideas what that will produce?
Thanks