Cream Legbar Working Group: Standard of Perfection

[ChicKat]

The breast of the male looks to my eyes to lack actual barring - maybe it is my monitor.

The hen, is I believe the end-point of the silver-looking cream. So silver-looking roosters will eventually produce hens with this appearance. Perhaps, it then becomes a question of exactly what salmon is....I was thinking between Oac789 and Oac776 mixed in equal parts. This hen is kind of like Oac764 and Oac765 - which is interesting.

Here is an artist rendition from the UK

Because it is an artist drawing, the salmon is more saturated than the reality - but it is an interesting end-point.

ETA - oh the mug can be found on eBay - my attribution - I believe Emma Bridgewater is the artist.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...m+legbar&_nkw=cream+legbar&_sacat=0&_from=R40

ETA - because gray can be black with one drop of white, or white with one drop of black, I think the existing females that most people have now, and the future females would both fit the SOP.

 

[nicalandia]

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while I like your Bantams, they are that. just bantams and due that fact you cant compare a bantam leghorn to a full size Legbar, a better comparison would be the standard size show Leghorn....


look at the following show type leghorn of Holland...

did you miss this post guys

 

[ChicKat]

look at the following show type leghorn of Holland...

Photos can only do so much, and seeing the birds from a direct side-on is different from most of the CL photos that are from above and from 3/4 side-angle....these are nice examples of healthy birds..

This does resemble the more upright stance that CL roosters have as opposed to a more elongated lateral stance that a lot of the leghorns (in pictures- especially historic ones that I have seen) show.
The rooster has a 5-point comb going for it, (did I count right?) I know that you cannot tell from photos, but is the bulge over the eye similar to a thumb-mark?
Seems like has the 45-degree tail angle.

Here is another thing that perhaps Walt could address...

"...Breast prominent, and breast bone straight"

blue typeface quote lifted from the autosexing site http://autosexing-poultry.co.uk/wordpress/legbar/

The line from the top to the lower part of the breast does look pretty straight angled at about 45-degrees from horizontal as it slopes toward the legs.

ETA typed crest, meant comb, corrected it above.

 

[nicalandia]

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I dont quit understand what you are trying to say here: Grey is not Black with a drop of White...neither white with one drop of black

 

[ChicKat]

Quote: Talking paint here..... gray goes from near black -- like slate, to near white like fog or mist..... it actually does.

 

[nicalandia]

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oh ok , I thought you were talking about genetics

 

[fowlman01]

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while I like your Bantams, they are that. just bantams and due that fact you cant compare a bantam leghorn to a full size Legbar, a better comparison would be the standard size show Leghorn.... look at the following show type leghorn of Holland...

okay, why don't folks tell us the good and bad of this male. W

 

[nicalandia]

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Why would I do such a Thing? I was stating that you cant compare your Bantams Leghorns to Full size Legbars, its logical that the bird to use is full size leghorn..

 

[fowlman01]

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That is true in some bantams, but the Leghorns are the same large or bantam. They have the same description, but the weights are of course different.

I want people to do that so that they can see what they know.....or don't know. The next question would be .....how do you fix it's problems and it has some. I am just trying to determine if you folks really know more than I am giving you credit for. I hope you do! I have been told that you guys have all this down and all you have to do is go online to find out what you don't know.

Maybe it is so, but if you don't know the Leghorn bantams are the same description as the large it is a bad start. Page 252 APA SOP.

Walt

 

[KPenley]

@ Kathy, I was just trying to show the wedge shape and width of shoulders in the Scartop pics above.

@ Nicalandia: Is the Leghorn pic from Holland a Brown Leghorn, and do they have the same type of SOP as ours? If so, I can give it a shot W.