Cream Legbars

[nicalandia]

there's no loosing the cream gene in the process if faykokoWV boys have the cream gene then they have it no matter which roo she picks assuming they are all brothers from their first batch.

you are assuming too much. some of her birds look infact gold. I have seen plenty of Cream legbars that are gold infact and have lost or have hidden the cream gene. so to assum all and every bird you have is pure for the cream gene is a Huge mistake

 

[faykokoWV]

What has been the experience of others with lines a and b from GFF? These were purchased as chicks directly from them.

I will attempt to get them banded and take pictures of each so its easier to evaluate which roo is which. I have noticed that 4 of the 6 pullets look more gold in color. 2 have more of a cream color, but are darker over all. I've tried to follow the genetics stuff, but it so much!!

Sounds like the bottom line is I need to get better pictures to get the best help in selection.

Would it be of any benefit to keep one with the best color and one with the best form? I plan on keeping three. Should I give them another 2-3 months prior to making a decision?

all of the roos do have crests, but they are very small.


One of the boys may get culled regardless of form or color as he keeps charging me from behind when I walk past the run. He backs down as soon as turn and face him, but aggression is not a trait I would want to keep regardless.

 

[CibolaChooks]

you are assuming too much. some of her birds look infact gold. I have seen plenty of Cream legbars that are gold infact and have lost or have hidden the cream gene. so to assum all and every bird you have is pure for the cream gene is a Huge mistake

i didn't thanks!!! no one can assume that hence what i said. "And if that's the case we should help her paint the barn since she asked for a critique especially since none of us know not even faykokoWV what her pairings will produce" this a statement saying i wont assume nor should anybody else. just encourage someone and help them with what they got is my thinking. If you feel so strong their gold tell them to sell all their birds and get new ones from your hatching eggs. I don't think anybody would want to take that stance. which is why I'm just thinking positive giving someone hope because you nor me or anybody else can assume and say ahh its gold or ya this one has a single gene. not even knowing what a chickens offspring will be and saying ahh they look gold not single gene carriers is the real assumption.

we just have to give best advice and help someone who's excited about there birds and then if they breed them and produce nothing but gold then deal with that advice then, when they post a question asking why did mine all turn out gold.

 

[CibolaChooks]

What has been the experience of others with lines a and b from GFF? These were purchased as chicks directly from them.

I will attempt to get them banded and take pictures of each so its easier to evaluate which roo is which. I have noticed that 4 of the 6 pullets look more gold in color. 2 have more of a cream color, but are darker over all. I've tried to follow the genetics stuff, but it so much!!

Sounds like the bottom line is I need to get better pictures to get the best help in selection.

Would it be of any benefit to keep one with the best color and one with the best form? I plan on keeping three. Should I give them another 2-3 months prior to making a decision?

all of the roos do have crests, but they are very small.


One of the boys may get culled regardless of form or color as he keeps charging me from behind when I walk past the run. He backs down as soon as turn and face him, but aggression is not a trait I would want to keep regardless.

were discussing that now. some here are for color i guess. I'm more for form. i don't mind having to bring the color in later, and hopefully if you go for form you might just get both good form and color from your offspring. if there is no cream gene present (which is impossible to tell) then going for form is your only option. so I'm one for building the barn and if the color comes out different than you like repaint your well built barn.

If you have two really different, one really good on form and one really good on color i would use the form one and keep the color one as a back up with a few hens of his own. You can compare the offspring and if they are all cream then you know your good form roo is the one and if the form roo doesn't produce cream then you will know if the other one does or doesn't.

 

[nicalandia]

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One of the boys may get culled regardless of form or color as he keeps charging me from behind when I walk past the run. He backs down as soon as turn and face him, but aggression is not a trait I would want to keep regardless.

Cull any human aggressive birds, I fail to do this once and one of my game birds attacked one of my family memeber that was very young at the time. we ate him that afternoon..


my advise to all of the gold looking birds is. yest you should keep them Only if they have very good type(crest, earlob, body shape) why? because later on if you find a good breeder of cream legbars with good color and type you can introduce a hen or two to your best type rooster and all of the offsprings will have cream hidden in them, a quick F1xF1 or back cross will give you good colored birds that will keep the type you were working... now if they look gold and have bad type? dont even bother

 

[normanack]

A wide variety of type and color in Cream Legbars (at least to my novice eyes) is on eBay for hatching eggs right now. I don't know if any posters here are among the sellers, but my initial assessment is that all of our birds are better than the general representation on eBay at this moment.

I'm surprised -- last year I thought all the eBay Cream Legbars looked alike.

 

[nicalandia]

I'm surprised -- last year I thought all the eBay Cream Legbars looked alike.

you have learned well my friend

 

[faykokoWV]

A wide variety of type and color in Cream Legbars (at least to my novice eyes) is on eBay for hatching eggs right now. I don't know if any posters here are among the sellers, but my initial assessment is that all of our birds are better than the general representation on eBay at this moment.

I'm surprised -- last year I thought all the eBay Cream Legbars looked alike.

Isn't is great to have groups like this to learn from!

 

[call ducks]

Ok Guys and Gals,

Green Fire Farms has done something (kind of) right (for a change) please don't ruin it. Get your genetic base going first before selecting for anything. Or else you can kiss production features good by. If some one wouldn't mind can you go see how many fingers you can stick in between the two pelvic bones.

It's sad to say but i soon predict there will be two different types of Legbars, utility and show.

A utility bird can produce SQ birds (can sometimes, not always). How ever a show bird can almost never produce a utility bird... Anyone getting the drift? When legbars were first created they were bred in a way that would allow them to be back crossed to parent birds to reproduce more legbar offspring.

 

[nicalandia]

Ok Guys and Gals,

Green Fire Farms has done something (kind of) right (for a change) please don't ruin it. Get your genetic base going first before selecting for anything. Or else you can kiss production features good by. If some one wouldn't mind can you go see how many fingers you can stick in between the two pelvic bones.

It's sad to say but i soon predict there will be two different types of Legbars, utility and show.

A utility bird can produce SQ birds (can sometimes, not always). How ever a show bird can almost never produce a utility bird... Anyone getting the drift? When legbars were first created they were bred in a way that would allow them to be back crossed to parent birds to reproduce more legbar offspring.

I dont understand your question or your statement. what have GFF done right ?