Cream Legbars

[DCchicken]

Yes I know they are hybrids (more correctly projects breeds since they are mated back to the original roos where hybrids are not). I never called them Legbars. In my opinion the White Sports are not Cream Legbars either, they are culls that do not meet the proposed SOP. I do not have White in my line but I like the look. So I crossed them to the Bresse for a separate project. I also crossed Cream Legbars with Isbars to work on fixing the autosexing capability of Isbars. But I would never call either a Cream Legbar. I don't have a name for the Bresse x Cream Legbar project, but the Isbar autosexing project I call "IceCreamBars".

I am positive I do not have it in my line. I hatched hundreds of Cream Legbars this Spring. One month I had four brooders full of Cream Legbar chicks. At one swap here in Maryland, I sold well over 100 in a couple of hours. None of mine produce White Sports. Maybe it was just luck or maybe it was just not present in my original shipment from Greenfire. Or maybe it got tossed out with the heavy culling I did.

 

[cutipatooti]

Is this a common look for a club chick growing out? I'm not really seeing the barring I see on the other chicks.

 

[blackbirds13]

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I think you may be correct but if you are only using your original birds and maybe F1, first generation it is very likely it will not show up and I would be skeptical. If you are line breeding your f2 then maybe you are correct. I think unless you have test bred each bird there is no way to be 100% sure.
I was just as sure as you are for almost 2 years and till I started my F3 generation of birds. Even when it did pop up it was not prolific in my flock and did not show up until I started breeding my F2 birds and to a newly acquired 2013 bird and 1 older hen did it show up. I believe you could possibly be right and I was for 2 years but unless I check I cannot say for sure it is not here still. I hope you are correct but the odds are against it. The 2013 birds carry some of the same genes as all the prior lines. I also have hatched a culled a lot. I sold very little of what I hatched in 2012 and then also in 2013, but that was the first time I sold off a good amount of the pullets I grew out.

 

[blackbirds13]

Is this a common look for a club chick growing out? I'm not really seeing the barring I see on the other chicks.

These are my most recent chick picks of the Rees line Legbars. They are older now and in an outdoor pen but they did display barring as the feathers were growing out. I do not recall seeing feathers like the ones on your chick photo on any of my boys. His feathering seems to be lacking barring.

 

[caychris]

Im new to chickens and CLB even more so and do not know much beyond how to tell boys from girls
I have some 6 week old chicks and there is some color variation between the boys and the girl seems rather dark.
I believe these originated from the Greenfire line any comments would be welcome

Boy #1


Boy #2 (largest and most brown)


Boy #3 (slightly smaller than the other with similar coloring)


The little lady


Thanks

 

[cutipatooti]

Is this a common look for a club chick growing out? I'm not really seeing the barring I see on the other chicks.

Sorry I ment CLB (auto correct)!

 

[caychris]

I think you may be correct but if you are only using your original birds and maybe F1, first generation it is very likely it will not show up and I would be skeptical. If you are line breeding your f2 then maybe you are correct. I think unless you have test bred each bird there is no way to be 100% sure.
I was just as sure as you are for almost 2 years and till I started my F3 generation of birds. Even when it did pop up it was not prolific in my flock and did not show up until I started breeding my F2 birds and to a newly acquired 2013 bird and 1 older hen did it show up. I believe you could possibly be right and I was for 2 years but unless I check I cannot say for sure it is not here still. I hope you are correct but the odds are against it. The 2013 birds carry some of the same genes as all the prior lines. I also have hatched a culled a lot. I sold very little of what I hatched in 2012 and then also in 2013, but that was the first time I sold off a good amount of the pullets I grew out.

But isn't the white sport a mutation of the barring genes. I've been reading about delawares a lot which get their barring from Barred Rocks. Delawares are Sports from that cross bred to each other. It may be more common to occur with crosses because they may not get enough doses of the gene. I would think that any Barred species could have to potential to throw sports but would be more rare in those carrying more copies of the gene.

 

[KPenley]

But isn't the white sport a mutation of the barring genes. I've been reading about delawares a lot which get their barring from Barred Rocks. Delawares are Sports from that cross bred to each other. It may be more common to occur with crosses because they may not get enough doses of the gene. I would think that any Barred species could have to potential to throw sports but would be more rare in those carrying more copies of the gene.

Yes, but white Legbars are not true sports. They are white from recessive white being carried by some of the birds (c/c). So two white Legbars will breed true.

 

[caychris]

Yes, but white Legbars are not true sports. They are white from recessive white being carried by some of the birds (c/c). So two white Legbars will breed true.

Any comment on the pics of my birds a few posts prior.

 

[KPenley]

Any comment on the pics of my birds a few posts prior.

Sure they're very young, so please keep us updated with how they grow! Keep an eye on boy 2. I like a lot of things about his shape and light neck/ hackles. Again, they're very young. Your pullet also looks like she has some potential. Once she gets some meat on her bones I think she will have a nice long shape too. Love the barring in her crest and it looks like she'll have cream in those hackles! Best wishes!