Cream Legbars

[Brada Puhi]

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[KPenley]

Puhi, barring is correct in the secondaries according to the SOP. The dark gray barring of the breast is somewhat up to interpretation, but the most important thing is that it should be clearly darker than the top side ( hackles, back, saddle). HTH

 

[ChicKat]

I'm so excited to join this thread! My CL chick, Hermione, is abut two weeks old, and is growing up very nicely. She's not the most docile bird, but she is clever and curious, and friendly enough (as long as I don't try to grab her). She came from Secret Hills Ranch in Alpine, CA. I can't wait to watch her grow up!!!

really a nice chick - They would rather be on your finger or arm or shoulder than they would held wouldn't they!

 

[ChicKat]

Thanks Puhi,

The chart was made to help us discuss the colors - that we are seeing (It isn't a reflection of genetics per se) - as GaryDean26 identified - a bit like the Ameraucana, Aracana Egg charts. The birds are not Cream Legbars - but rather Crele leghorns in the Gold variety and the Silver Variety In the upper and lower corners---but Cream Legbars are neither Gold nor Silver --

When I made it I was thinking that there would be a range of cream -- but again the focus was more on the cream than on the gray-- THEN I noticed how the color blending changed the shades on the backs of the hens......And that perhaps is a better indicator than neck hackles...

As folks were telling others that they had a Gold Legbar -- it was a way to say -- it doesn't match 100% Gold...is it truly a gold legbar -- Which of course it wasn't because that is a Different variety.

Thanks KP and GD26 for zeroing in on the name of the whites===

Wow I just noticed that the golden hen above in post 5541 has an entirely chestnut comb......


Then, regarding the cream one at 6 1/2 months - nice yellow legs and nice type -BTW --> definitely got warmer coloration. I think that the sun has a lot to do with it -- also because her legs are so yellow - she must have ample beta carotene. I have a pullet (the same one shown from gray to brown) that was so stellar just at the time of the LaGrange show - that I wanted to take her -- but on the other hand she was just at POL and that is stressful enough - so I didn't want to stress her any further at that stage of her life -- with all the driving and being away from home - and being in a show etc. --- She was gorgeous then -- and now her legs -- because she is laying so much - have gotten very light -- I think she needs some grass to eat....:O) == She is past what Grant Brereton identified as "12'clock' -- but she is still my best pullet..... Maybe next year one of her daughters? who could say.

Which brings me to a very important point
DISCLAIMER:

Please be aware that the ideas expressed about the wings apply strictly to the secondaries and that the SOP we are working with is in draft form. In the future there could be changes. These are things that have come to light recently - especially helpful since we have multiple photos for comparison. :O)

 

[ChicKat]

Now there is this triangle thing in the roosters wing. Itʻs dark brown on the first rooster, and slowly goes to white on the last cream rooster. Sorry, I donʻt know the proper name for that. But my two roos seem to have a barring over there instead of a solid color. Not sure if this is common enough to reflect on this chart.

Also, do we want the bottom part to be that dark of a gray?

Aloha, Puhi

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This is a really astute observation. Yes, the wing triangle that is brown in the upper left image on the chart -- (brown is gold in chicken language)--- and the same wing triangle on the lower right chicken is white - (white is silver in chicken language)--- Is a definite designator to people who raise these chickens - the brown for a Gold Crele Leghorn the white for a Silver Crele Leghorn -- I used the models for the chart because the underlying genes (wild type or e+ and barring or B/B for the male) are the same as in Legbars.

Oh and Thanks, a while back to Junibutt for the complements on my avitar - I said I would put up a more recent picture of him -- he was a babe then....

It is here on BYC someplace or other in a rooster contest.... He doesn't look like that now - because he has one tattered sickle feather left to fall out - and then a whiole new tail to grow in...He does show the darker breast in that photo -- and he does show that the wing triangle is neither brown nor white. I bet that is what you were referring to .....

 

[Pyxis]

I have my first CCL eggs in the incubator right now, all shipped. The first dozen's candling was last night and every single egg is developing. Tonight is the other dozen's first candling. If they do even half as well I should hopefully have a good little flock going!

 

[MrsFitzDarcy]

On day 21 here. 2 CCLS left in the batch. No pips yet. When I transferred the eggs out of the turner on Day 19, the plug got bumped and were without heart for an hour. Ambient Temp didn't go below 80. Hope i didn't kill them all.

 

[MrsFitzDarcy]

My first pip!

 

[ChicKat]

My first pip!

Looks good -- can't wait for the baby pictures.....

 

[ChicKat]

I have my first CCL eggs in the incubator right now, all shipped. The first dozen's candling was last night and every single egg is developing. Tonight is the other dozen's first candling. If they do even half as well I should hopefully have a good little flock going!

yay!! Hope you will soon have a big flock!