Cream Legbars

I had an incubator die on day 10 once and so we finished the hatch in a food warmer (that was back in the days when we only had on incubator). The controls were pretty touch on the warming tray and we had temps up to 110 deg F. but still had chicks pip right on day 21 and hatch without any problems.

We also treated eggs with heat to kill Mycoplasm one year. The research said that if the eggs internal temperature reached 114 deg F that the Mycoplsm wouldn't survive. We put the eggs in 117 deg for half a day to get the internal tempurature up to 114. The research we read indicated that hatchrates would drop by 10% but we saw more like a 30% drop in hatchrate.

Yes, I fully agree that too hot is worse than cool temps.

Thanks for the info, the food warmer is a good option to have just in case. I use a workshop-type heat gun to check temps in odd situations, plus a small conventional thermometer.

Do you ever use other methods to eliminate problems that may be passed through the hen to the hatching eggs? I'm thinking options have been posted on here in the past.
 
Keep them...I have had successful hatches with the incubator off for over 12 hours. In nature the hen gets off the nest 2-3 times a day, sometime for more than an hour at a time yet those eggs still hatch. If your incubator is off for more than a day, then yes you can start to worry (but they are probablly fine too). Two hours is nothing. That is just a normal part of the hatch in nature. Some of the advanced incubators that I have seen actually are designed to cool the eggs for 30 minutes every day with the claim that giving the eggs a chance to cool during incubation like they do under a broody hen increases the hatch rate. Don't losing any sleep over it. They are 100% fine.

Thanks for the advice. I had a power outage a week ago for one hour. It delayed my hatch a whole day. Why is it the power only goes out when you have eggs baking, lol . Some of these are orders so I am concerned. I only .lost 1 during the hatch. He was the spitting image of his father.
 
Thanks for the info, the food warmer is a good option to have just in case. I use a workshop-type heat gun to check temps in odd situations, plus a small conventional thermometer.

Do you ever use other methods to eliminate problems that may be passed through the hen to the hatching eggs? I'm thinking options have been posted on here in the past.
Yes...the year we got MS in our flock we tried both the 114 deg. internal temperature method and a method that soaked the eggs for 15 minutes in a solution with a strong antibiotic. Both methods claimed a 10% drop in hatch rates. Both were more like a 30% drop for us. My current hatching method just consists of washing any egg that has anything stuck to the shell (not mater how small) in soapy water then rinsing all the eggs (even the ones that are nest clean) in a water with bleach. I know there are better solution for killing germs than bleach, but I have it on hand and so it is easy. Peroxide is another thing that I have heard people use to clean the shell that I would consider using. Mycoplasma only has a 6% chance of passing via the eggs to offspring from a pullet and only a 1% chance of passing from a hen, so if you hatch from hens that helps with some of the things that could pass from the parents to the offspring too.
 
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Good luck with your hatch!

Every one that I have had pip has hatched itself -- so that's a good sign.
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(if yours are like mine) -- they are just a bit later. Mine have started shortening incubation to 20 days the little hooligans. They are really vigorous chicks.

Be sure to let everyone know the outcome.

That's so interesting - I only have an "n" of 2, but my earlier CL hatch was early (pips day 19, hatches day 20 for most), and for my current, I've got pips on day 19 again. Maybe Dumbledore carries the "impatient" gene...
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The littles are doing well outside - they had their first super-fierce thunderstorm last night and did just fine. They are all scared of me because the way I brooded them, I loomed a lot even though I tried not to (they were on the floor). I've been sitting in their growout tractor to get them more used to me, and though they almost all avoid me still, one of Paula's girls has decided to adopt me as her best friend - just like her mother (whom I still miss, she was my very first chicken and loved me an awful lot). She loves to jump up on my knee and shoulder. Here's a selfie we took yesterday - it's nearly identical to selfies I have of me and Paula.





I just finished the new brooder for the CLs in the hatcher (Lissa's babies - I was worried she might get sick with Marek's but she and Dumbledore have been resistant so far which is excellent). It's elevated because, in addition to not wanting to loom over the chicks, my back could NOT cope with brooding ANY more chicks at floor level - EVER!!!! (There's a divider because I'm also expecting some other chicks in the mail next week - German New Hampshires and Blue Copper Marans).



My husband and I were just musing about all the chicken related sayings there are..flown the coop, don't count your chickens before they hatch, hen pecked, eggs in one basket, mother hen, fox in the hen house, I could go on and on. Funny how much they have infiltrated our lexicon!
That's so funny that you say that, I was JUST thinking about this tonight and had started a list. Including sitting tight, taking someone under your wing, pecking order, etc., etc...

OK, I'm pooped - gotta go to bed. Still need to get the last bit of the brooder set up tomorrow morning before work...

- Ant Farm
 
That's so interesting - I only have an "n" of 2, but my earlier CL hatch was early (pips day 19, hatches day 20 for most), and for my current, I've got pips on day 19 again. Maybe Dumbledore carries the "impatient" gene...
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The littles are doing well outside - they had their first super-fierce thunderstorm last night and did just fine. They are all scared of me because the way I brooded them, I loomed a lot even though I tried not to (they were on the floor). I've been sitting in their growout tractor to get them more used to me, and though they almost all avoid me still, one of Paula's girls has decided to adopt me as her best friend - just like her mother (whom I still miss, she was my very first chicken and loved me an awful lot). She loves to jump up on my knee and shoulder. Here's a selfie we took yesterday - it's nearly identical to selfies I have of me and Paula.





I just finished the new brooder for the CLs in the hatcher (Lissa's babies - I was worried she might get sick with Marek's but she and Dumbledore have been resistant so far which is excellent). It's elevated because, in addition to not wanting to loom over the chicks, my back could NOT cope with brooding ANY more chicks at floor level - EVER!!!! (There's a divider because I'm also expecting some other chicks in the mail next week - German New Hampshires and Blue Copper Marans).



That's so funny that you say that, I was JUST thinking about this tonight and had started a list. Including sitting tight, taking someone under your wing, pecking order, etc., etc...

OK, I'm pooped - gotta go to bed. Still need to get the last bit of the brooder set up tomorrow morning before work...

- Ant Farm
Awesome brooder!
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Love the pict of you and the chick....how nice that she got the friendlines from her mother.
 
I am flabbergasted! I cannot get my CLB"S to not run, fly and hide from me. They are so flighty.
The trick Ive used with the few flighty breeds I raised was to hand raise them with some friendly breeds like buff orps or in my case Pita Pintas.

I feed them a mash as chicks that I replenish often so they get used to being fed by me. The friendlier chicks demonstrate a trust in their human friends and chickens are a monkey see monkey do kind of animal.

I try to only give them enough food to last between feedings.( more as young chicks)

The mash cuts down on waste and breaks down even the crumbles to something easy for even the smallest chicks to eat. Once they are about 4-6 weeks I start to introduce small treats and often will give them out by hand so the friendliest chicks often get the treat first. I agree that if you loom over them a lot it can be problematic. I usually take a few out at a time and hold them and try to get them to eat from the hand (cant give that individual attention to large flocks though) But if you want friendlier birds spending time with them, with food, is really the only way. If they learn it as chicks they keep the habit. Raising them with a friendly breed helps reinforce this.

Really hard to do if they are broody raised birds but if you can get friendly broodies (My buff orp is one) then mama can help teach them people are friends but spending time is still key
 
I am flabbergasted! I cannot get my CLB"S to not run, fly and hide from me. They are so flighty.
Weird, mine are constantly underfoot, I have to be careful not to step on them when I move around the coop. It's particularly so when I'm carrying a pan that they suspect has "treats" (usually the same pellets they have free choice, just with water added to make it mush). They don't perch on my shoulder, but that's because I haven't singled out one to get really tame.

The Reese line youngsters I'm raising now seem even more calm than the other line. I used to worry they were feeling ill because they didn't run from me like most of the chicks do, but they just seem to not be wary of me at all. I like that, makes them extra easy to manage, but I don't think Legbars would be a good free ranging breed because they aren't flighty enough. But then the BBS Ams I free ranged are fine and that breed is quite easy to manage in pens, and the very opposite of "flighty" (but very hard to catch once they have tasted freedom).

Maybe you need to tame them with a regular bowl of treats that they start to associate with your presence.
 
Hi everyone, I have a question... hope you don't mind me just jumping in.

I just hatched 5 cream legbar chicks, I think I have 2 boys and 2 girls and then there is one that I am confused about. He/she is the one in the top of both pics, can anyone tell if it is a cockerel or pullet? These are my first CCLs and I'm very excited to start breeding them, also I LOVE the little crests on these babies, so cute!



 

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