Cream Legbars

[duluthralphie]

 

[OneMountainAcres]

Ralph-are you getting a lot more white legbars now? I may want to try again for some in the spring of you're going to be breeding them.

 

[Localheronow]

this is my line of cream legbars

 

[OneMountainAcres]

this is my line of cream legbars

Stunning!

 

[duluthralphie]

Ralph-are you getting a lot more white legbars now? I may want to try again for some in the spring of you're going to be breeding them.

I am going to be breeding them. I have a nice flock of whites now. I think I should be able to hatch 50-60 whites a week. The trick is going to be getting the crest right. The hens I do well, the boys not so much. I find it kind of funny with Meyers Hatchery offering whites and limiting a person to 3 birds. When I can now hatch so many.

I might have to get another incubator and hatcher for them. It will all depend on the market for them.

I think my white hens are stunning, my roosters not so much. I am really happy with the eggs I have gotten from the pullets the blue is a perfect shade.

 

[GaryDean26]

That sounds great, I will have to see what I can do..

Can I suggest the cream legbar club remove sport and just call them white legbars? You know my reasons.

Also could you post a picture of what you think a Golden Crele looks like, I think I might have some of them, not that I wanted them, they just appeared. LOL

I am about 99% sure that the Proposed APA Standard for the White Sport Legbars will NOT use the Term "Sport" anywhere in the standard.

A "Sport" is NOT a color variety. A "sport" is what you call the offspring that doesn't meet a color standard that comes from parents and grandparents that all meet a color standard. So..if you have a White Legbar that has four grandparent that are the crele pattern, both parents that are the crele pattern as it is white, it is a "White Sport". Sport is a genetics term for recessive colors that pop out of an established line. It is not a hobby name for the color variety.

So... people that are breeding white sports together to make a new variety are creating White Legbar lines. Once they have White offspring that come from parents and grandparents that are all white it will NOT be a Sport White Legbar, but rather a White Legbar.

Note: At shows you can not list a bird as a Sport White Legbar since that is not a color variety. You have to list it as a White Legbar.

Almost every White variety out there was started from White sports. The most recent one that I can think of is the White Maran that was accepted into the APA a little less than 3 years ago. When Marans breeders started to see white birds pop out of their flocks there was a lot of talk about their white sport marans. Today they still see white sports but they also have established White Marans lines and they show White Marans.

The distinction is important because sports do not always meet a standard where established lines from year of breeding do. If someone were selling a sports White Marans it would be a much different thing from selling a White Marans even though they look the same.

 

[sol2go]

Nice to see all the Legbar pics!
If you go to the Cream Legbar Club FB page you can find the entry information including the specific varieties.
You can also send me a PM if you need more information or don't have a FB account, as there is a way for you to submit. Everyone is invited, no exclusions.

Thanks to all for the good discussion re: White Legbars. It is a work in progress and I will have to adjust my shorthand to leave out the "sport" reference.

 

[sol2go]

this is my line of cream legbars

Lots of great examples!

I singled out these two pics as they illustrate an important element: matching hackle and saddle feathers.

While both boys in the top pic are cream, the boy in the middle of that pic has closely matched hackle and saddle feathers. Ditto the single rooster in the bottom pic.

Getting similar pattern/barring in those areas is critical and the visual continuity along the back of the rooster really stands out. Matching hackle/saddle feathers also highlight the contrast between those areas and the main body pattern/barring. When the hackle and saddle feathers are mismatched, the hackle tends to blend in to the body.

Thanks for posting.

 

[Sylvester017]

I am going to be breeding them. I have a nice flock of whites now. I think I should be able to hatch 50-60 whites a week. The trick is going to be getting the crest right. The hens I do well, the boys not so much. I find it kind of funny with Meyers Hatchery offering whites and limiting a person to 3 birds. When I can now hatch so many.

I might have to get another incubator and hatcher for them. It will all depend on the market for them.

I think my white hens are stunning, my roosters not so much. I am really happy with the eggs I have gotten from the pullets the blue is a perfect shade.

Pic please of both the white birds and their eggs of perfect shade! I've been reading many who are disappointed in their green tinted eggs.

 

[fowlman01]

I am about 99% sure that the Proposed APA Standard for the White Sport Legbars will NOT use the Term "Sport" anywhere in the standard.

A "Sport" is NOT a color variety.  A "sport" is what you call the offspring that doesn't meet a color standard that comes from parents and grandparents that all meet a color standard.  So..if you have a White Legbar that has four grandparent that are the crele pattern, both parents that are the crele pattern as it is white, it is a "White Sport".  Sport is a genetics term for recessive colors that pop out of an established line.  It is not a hobby name for the color variety.  

So... people that are breeding white sports together to make a new variety are creating White Legbar lines.  Once they have White offspring that come from parents and grandparents that are all white it will NOT be a Sport White Legbar, but rather a White Legbar.   

Note:  At shows you can not list a bird as a Sport White Legbar since that is not a color variety.  You have to list it as a White Legbar.  

Almost every White variety out there was started from White sports.  The most recent one that I can think of is the White Maran that was accepted into the APA a little less than 3 years ago. When Marans breeders started to see white birds pop out of their flocks there was a lot of talk about their white sport marans.  Today they still see white sports but they also have established White Marans lines and they show White Marans.  

The distinction is important because sports do not always meet a standard where established lines from year of breeding do. If someone were selling a sports White Marans it would be a much different thing from selling a White Marans even though they look the same.

you are 100 percent correct. Sport is not used in the APA Standard.