Crele orpington project.....

[MysteryChicken]

Here's her at 3 weeks old.

 

[MysteryChicken]

She ended up dying 3 days ago, but I'm going to hatch a new few, some with somewhat different genetics, but not by much though.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Here are the parents of the first chick you saw.

Father

Mother.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Does my chick look crele to you? Someone was judging my work, and would like your opinions.

 

[The Moonshiner]

I wasn't judging your work or you.
I was trying to get you to understand what crele actually is and why your chick wasn't crele.
I've noticed you posting on other crele threads like this one. I've also seen those threads explaining what crele is.
It is lost on me why you ignore all the info and continue to try to get support that your chick is crele.
It would be helpful for your future projects if you would research more into genetics. To make a certain color/pattern you research the genetics that make it then breed birds together that will bring in the correct genes and go from there not start crossing cross breeds then just randomly pick a pattern that sorta looks simular and call it that pattern.

 

[MysteryChicken]

I wasn't judging your work or you.
I was trying to get you to understand what crele actually is and why your chick wasn't crele.
I've noticed you posting on other crele threads like this one. I've also seen those threads explaining what crele is.
It is lost on me why you ignore all the info and continue to try to get support that your chick is crele.
It would be helpful for your future projects if you would research more into genetics. To make a certain color/pattern you research the genetics that make it then breed birds together that will bring in the correct genes and go from there not start crossing cross breeds then just randomly pick a pattern that sorta looks simular and call it that pattern.

I haven't ignored any info on the color pattern. Look at beilefelder chickens? Their color is crele, and they don't have Black Breasted Red OEGB in their genetics. You don't need that in the bloodline, trust me. I know what I'm doing.

 

[MysteryChicken]

Bielefelder Kennhuhn or Bielefelder is a German breed of domestic chicken. It was created in the 1970 by Gerd Roth using Amrocks, Malines, New Hampshire and Rhode Island Red. Bielefelder is dual purpose breed, hens producing about 230 eggs a year. Wikipedia
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[MysteryChicken]

From Google.com

 

[MysteryChicken]

I wasn't judging your work or you.
I was trying to get you to understand what crele actually is and why your chick wasn't crele.
I've noticed you posting on other crele threads like this one. I've also seen those threads explaining what crele is.
It is lost on me why you ignore all the info and continue to try to get support that your chick is crele.
It would be helpful for your future projects if you would research more into genetics. To make a certain color/pattern you research the genetics that make it then breed birds together that will bring in the correct genes and go from there not start crossing cross breeds then just randomly pick a pattern that sorta looks simular and call it that pattern.

She didn't have a chance to finish growing to see the final results of the breeding. A lot of other breeds are basically purified mutts.

 

[The Moonshiner]

Crele has nothing to do with OEGB per say. Crele is just a pattern it can be on any bird that has the right genes. Breed is irrelevant.
True crele is barred red duckwing which BBR are red duckwing.
Duckwing is the key to crele along with barring.
Gold duckwing with barring is golden crele. Silver duckwing with barring is silver crele, etc. etc.

There are some breeds that use barring on partridge. Although they are not "true" crele some have excepted them as since partridge and duckwing are very similar. Almost exact with the males.
Both e locus are the chipmunk striped chicks which is what they have to be to be crele.
None of the breeds in your crosses carry duckwing or partridge which is why they are not crele or will ever produce crele without bringing in another breed.
Genes make the pattern and without the genes it simply isn't correct for the pattern.