Crested ducks the whole Picture

[Dianne1928]

Does anyone have ideas about keeping people from wanting to breed them? Or eliminating the market for them? Anyone else with first hand experiences to tell?

 

[aprille218]

Ok everyone check this out http://www.faithvalleywaterfowl.com/crested_call_genetics.html Patty Pickard has done an excellent job at describing the crested gene in call ducks. I raise and breed crested call ducks. Yes you may lose some to homozygous cresting IF you use both males and females that have the gene. That is the only way to have lethal cresting.

 

[DUCKOBSESSED]

Does anyone have ideas about keeping people from wanting to breed them? Or eliminating the market for them? Anyone else with first hand experiences to tell?

I don't believe that we can keep people from breeding. All we can do is educate them and hope they make the right choice. A lot of people just don't know.

 

[Dianne1928]

OK everyone check this out http://www.faithvalleywaterfowl.com/crested_call_genetics.html Patty Pickard has done an excellent job at describing the crested gene in call ducks. I raise and breed crested call ducks. Yes you may lose some to homozygous cresting IF you use both males and females that have the gene. That is the only way to have lethal cresting.

OK everyone check this out http://www.faithvalleywaterfowl.com/crested_call_genetics.html Patty Pickard has done an excellent job at describing the crested gene in call ducks. I raise and breed crested call ducks. Yes you may lose some to homozygous cresting IF you use both males and females that have the gene. That is the only way to have lethal cresting.

I respect that you have expressed your point of view. I am sure you tell anyone buying your ducks about this, so they get no surprises. You seem very forward about it. I very much admire honesty. I will go over that information again to make sure I understand. But it looks like to get a good crest, you need to breed 2 crested.

Thank-you for your post, the information and pictures. This will help people know what they will be signing on for. This is not for wimps like me

Also could you look at my last picture. This one made it to hatch day, but it's neck was bent down, and stuck inside the yolk sac. The yolk couldn't absorb that way? I just don't know. That thing on it's head is awfully big for a crest. The eyes bugged out that way suggests allot of pressure in the skull.

 

[aprille218]

This one certainly appears to be crested. It likely was positioned wrong in the eggs which makes it impossible to hatch without help.
You do end up with more of the larger crests when crossing two crested ducks but believe me some of the single gene crested ducks I have have crests the size of a big marshmallow (which is plenty big for a call duck).
Aprille

 

[tsulagvnege]

Does anyone have ideas about keeping people from wanting to breed them? Or eliminating the market for them? Anyone else with first hand experiences to tell?

The best we can do is educate those who don't understand exactly what the condition is and the problems it causes; and refuse to purchase from those breeders who don't eliminate the carriers from their breeding stock. If a hatchery makes a statement on their webpage that some crested individuals are possible when you order stock from their non-crested breeds they are practicing poor management of their breeding stock and should be avoided.

If someone knows the problems it causes and still wants to breed them despite the possibility of 25 percent suffering from a lethal developmental condition, and the possibility of suffering for many of those that are born with the condition (I posted the possible defects associated with the condition in a previous post) there is really nothing you can say to convince them. They are ignoring the fact that their desire for cute little ducks with crests is more important than preventing the suffering.

 

[DUCKOBSESSED]

The best we can do is educate those who don't understand exactly what the condition is and the problems it causes; and refuse to purchase from those breeders who don't eliminate the carriers from their breeding stock. If a hatchery makes a statement on their webpage that some crested individuals are possible when you order stock from their non-crested breeds they are practicing poor management of their breeding stock and should be avoided.

If someone knows the problems it causes and still wants to breed them despite the possibility of 25 percent suffering from a lethal developmental condition, and the possibility of suffering for many of those that are born with the condition (I posted the possible defects associated with the condition in a previous post) there is really nothing you can say to convince them. They are ignoring the fact that their desire for cute little ducks with crests is more important than preventing the suffering.

Well said, I completely agree.

 

[Dianne1928]

That is all for my personal experience. I will look for more, and maybe clinical trials and findings. But you are right. Education is the only way and then leave it up for personal choices. I have learned more here in a short time, than the hours I spent trying to figure out what was happening to my eggs. Thank-you
Dianne

 

[BC-NZ]

Does anyone know the chances of having crested offspring's from a non crested bloodline Drake and a Duck that has some crested bloodline but doesn't have a crest herself?

 

[jenniemig]

Wow, I had no idea. I received 2 crested ducklings today, they were a gift. Hopefully I don't have a male and female.