CSU - Chicken State University- Large Fowl SOP

[cgmccary]

Buckeye Pullet:

 

[cgmccary]

ANOTHER BUCKEYE COCK:

 

[ramirezframing]

cgmccary could you state whats good and bad with these birds you are putting pictures up of? Because I think the last pullet has that fluffy hump before her tail but not sure if this is whats needed or not

 

[cgmccary]

cgmccary could you state whats good and bad with these birds you are putting pictures up of? Because I think the last pullet has that fluffy hump before her tail but not sure if this is whats needed or not

Yes, thanks. I agree with you about the "fluffy hump." If you look closely, she has some black specks on her too. These two features I don't like about her, and I wouldn't show her. What I like about her is her head and general body type. I believe my pullets and hens have always lacked on color and that fluffy hump is often present (although I recently hatched some eggs {in December} from Laura Haggarty & her pullets have great color so I am hoping to incorporate her birds into my line -- I got 8 eggs to hatch and 6 are Haggarty pullets!).

However, what they lack in color, I think my pullets/hens have good type (proper Buckeye bodies and heads).

Before I commented about my own birds so much, I wanted to hear what Walt and the other knowledgeable folks thought as I appreciate the critiques from him (and them). After their comments, I will tell who has been shown, how they did and comment about them (what I think, agree or disagree with).

 

[cgmccary]

Since Walt has already commented that he liked the cockerel (see his Post #650 inthis thread) in the picture, then I will tell you that particular cockerel was Best of Breed at the 2012 Ohio National out of about 36 Buckeyes shown & Duane Urch was the judge (so Walt and Duane Urch have the same idea). I also knew he was real good and thought he would get BB when I took him. He was that good.

 

[cgmccary]

This pullet DOES NOT belong to me but is owned & bred by Cliff Calhoun. I think she is an excellent representative of the breed (she is holding her tail down but I saw her hold it up properly at the show); she was Reserve of Breed at the 2012 Ohio National:

 

[fowlman01]

Since Walt has already commented that he liked the cockerel (see his Post #650 inthis thread) in the picture, then I will tell you that particular cockerel was Best of Breed at the 2012 Ohio National out of about 36 Buckeyes shown & Duane Urch was the judge (so Walt and Duane Urch have the same idea). I also knew he was real good and thought he would get BB when I took him. He was that good.

Duane knows these well. Good win! Didn't you have best or Res large fowl a few times with your Buckeye's? When someone says they have wins it is always good to state it the way you did (class of 36) to give the reader a true picture of what the win meant. Some folks like to brag on wins where they didn't really have any competition. You have some very nice Buckeye's........some of the best I have seen.

The "hump" is called a cushion and you can find that in females of many breeds. It is something you want to gt rid of as it ruins the look of the backline. Most judges will run their hand down the back of the bird and if it stays flat for a bit they call it good. It is not correct though and in my experience fairly difficult to eliminate.

You are doing a great job with these.

Walt

 

[cgmccary]

Duane knows these well. Good win! Didn't you have best or Res large fowl a few times with your Buckeye's? When someone says they have wins it is always good to state it the way you did (class of 36) to give the reader a true picture of what the win meant. Some folks like to brag on wins where they didn't really have any competition. You have some very nice Buckeye's........some of the best I have seen.

The "hump" is called a cushion and you can find that in females of many breeds. It is something you want to gt rid of as it ruins the look of the backline. Most judges will run their hand down the back of the bird and if it stays flat for a bit they call it good. It is not correct though and in my experience fairly difficult to eliminate.

You are doing a great job with these.

Walt

With one particular Buckeye male, as a cockerel he won Large Fowl CH (show only had about 130 LF, but there were 18 Buckeyes in the show making them the most of any breed in the American Class * making them competitive). The judge in that show bred Buckeyes himself.

& as a Cock, the same male was LF CH and Reserve of Show Champion (1600+ in show and I am not sure how many Large Fowl there were in the show but there were more than 25 birds in the American Class). I think the Reserve of Show Champion may be a first for a Buckeye -- the stars, sun and moon lined up that day for my Cock Bird as we have a lot of OEGs at shows down here so hard for a LF to place like that.

The cushion shows up in quite a number of my females, and it does seem very difficult to get rid of. I have only shown my pullets at a couple of shows. My males seem to do well at the shows, but my females, often, I don't have a decent female to take -- one without some black flecks, or black in their hackles or dark enough overall or even enough color or they have that cushion.

However, these pullets I have growing from the eggs I hatched from Laura Haggarty (Pathfinders), though, are looking real good early. Nice, dark, even color on all of them. Her females, as you can see from Laura's photo of her pullet, are nice and dark.

 

[Lacy Blues]

Very very nice birds cgmccary.

I hadn't said anything on here in a while and this thread was 3 pages down on my slow computer so I needed to bring it up.

This post can be deleted immediately as I am in no way contributing to the discussion. I do really like these buckeyes though.

 

[fowlman01]

With one particular Buckeye male, as a cockerel he won Large Fowl CH (show only had about 130 LF, but there were 18 Buckeyes in the show making them the most of any breed in the American Class * making them competitive). The judge in that show bred Buckeyes himself.

& as a Cock, the same male was LF CH and Reserve of Show Champion (1600+ in show and I am not sure how many Large Fowl there were in the show but there were more than 25 birds in the American Class). I think the Reserve of Show Champion may be a first for a Buckeye -- the stars, sun and moon lined up that day for my Cock Bird as we have a lot of OEGs at shows down here so hard for a LF to place like that.

The cushion shows up in quite a number of my females, and it does seem very difficult to get rid of. I have only shown my pullets at a couple of shows. My males seem to do well at the shows, but my females, often, I don't have a decent female to take -- one without some black flecks, or black in their hackles or dark enough overall or even enough color or they have that cushion.

However, these pullets I have growing from the eggs I hatched from Laura Haggarty (Pathfinders), though, are looking real good early. Nice, dark, even color on all of them. Her females, as you can see from Laura's photo of her pullet, are nice and dark.

That is awesome! I thought that you had done well. It is not easy for a large fowl to beat the waterfowl and bantams. Laura's birds look very good as well and it is always a good thing to work with other breeders. There is someone out here in Calif (Napa county) that has hundreds of these. I haven't seen them yet, but I have talked to him on the phone. I can't remember his name though. There are at least two other people out here with pretty good Buckeyes that they are showing. The Buckeye seems to be making a strong comeback.

Walt