Cubalaya Thread For Sharing Pics and Discussing Our Birds

[Jungleexplorer]

Thank you Gallo for explaining that. She really is very pretty. I could not get a good angle on her to reveal her true color, but she is very different. Her legs have a lot more red in them then the others and her breast feathers show a redish hue that the camera just can't capture. Her attitude is also different the others. She is a loner. The others all hang together in a cluster but she ventures out by herself all alone. I really like her. She seems to have a very strong attitude. Very confident and really good posture and straight lines. Always head held up high and alert. I think she will turn out to be a really great hen. It is funny how this one chick turned out this way out of 50 chicks from the same birds. I am actually excited that she has some wild type in her. It tells me my birds have some old genes in them. Gene diversity is a good thing for the long term health of the birds.

I think the easiest way to form a Cubalaya Breeders Club would be to use legalzoom.com. I did all the paper work on my own to form my 501c3 non-profit ministry back in 2007 and it almost killed me. I use to be a young man. Now I am a white haired gnome!

I live with the fear that I did not do it right and one day the jack booted IRS thugs will come and haul me off to prison.

If I would have known about legalzoom back them, I might still be a teenager!

 

[saladin]

1) Craig Russell never made Phoenix crosses with his Cubes.
2) The 'other colors' came from Danny Padgett's father via Castignetti.
3) I have pictures of Cubes back in the 70s and 80s and their tails were much longer then than now.
4) I agree with the beaks, heads, etc.

 

[saladin]

Honestly, I can't see where or how the German Cubes would help us a single bit.

First, they had Shamo put in the by Schmudde years ago. If you want that the either do it yourself or get some birds that originated from the Bayliss line. I have those as does Sam Brush.

Second, since going to Germany they have had multiple things added including Yokos. The German breeder on uff has told us all this.

I'm not saying the German birds aren't good. I think they are. However, I also think we have birds that are just as good or better ourselves.

 

[cubalaya]

ok, so everyone is not onboard with the germans.
glad that was cleared up about the craig russell birds.

 

[Jungleexplorer]

Well, even if not for importing foreign birds, I think it would still be great for the Cubalaya breed to create an actual club. It would be great for the promotion of the breed and would also provide and better information repository then the random incoherence of an online forum such as this. Don't get me wrong, there is a lot of good info on this forum, but there is also a lot of misinformation and inaccuracies.

I tell you what. Let's vote on a name for the club if one is ever establish. I like the "Cubalaya Club of America" or the "Cubalaya Breeders Association of America".

 

[gallorojo]

If it's white it has to be recessive white, because neither parent is white.

This could easily be recessive white, as the spangleds came out of white parents and your blues have the blacks in them that have recessive white in them as well. Recessive white over a black background gives you grey ish smoky sort of chicks. The white pullet I gave you looked like this as a chick. I got several recessive whites out of the spangleds last year. It could be blue actually plus recessive white, or just a light blue with lots of white in the wings -
In a few weeks you'll know for sure, but I'd bet its a white.

 

[shamoman]

I want to reiterate the photo for the distinguising characteristics of this breed only as I feel I am being discredited by some, I have been exposed to this breed since the age of 5 talked with almost every early breeder. There has been a lack of interest over the years. Now as new breeders come in there is a lack of quality in current birds, and we as cubalaya breeder wish to attain the aspects of the breed as they came to us , Let us come together as true fanciers and make this breed come alive again?

 

[shamoman]

Saladin where is your info from? I have obtained fowl personally from craig russel and heard from him that he used golden phoenix.

 

[cubakid]

I wish it was simple enough to get a bird from Sam, but he told me is fertility is awful , his birds are getting old, and he told me this weekend he added blood from Jim Zook this year... Unfortunately the line is dwindling. I've tried getting birds from him since I started and all I've been able to ship out was three dozen eggs that he warned would have bad fertility to begin with. The German cubas have the lobster tails that the standard calls for. The whites are quite nice, and have good size and tail structure. I understand that we have the same blood here, but I know that I no longer have a brush type bird to breed from as he died of old age. It's hard to breed for size without a bird carrying it. I do believe though that we should have a club. It keeps things organized. As always, these are just my personal beliefs and everyone is entitled to thier own.
Zach

 

[saladin]

Saladin where is your info from? I have obtained fowl personally from craig russel and heard from him that he used golden phoenix.

I called him last night just to be sure. He laughed out loud and said, "I never used phoenix with the Cubalayas." As a matter of fact, he wasn't to thrilled to hear what was being said online.

As I talk to him at least once a week, it is pretty easy for me to ask questions.

I'm not discrediting you at all. I just simply disagree with you.