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ccassidy18 said:
I also forgot to ask,why is there not much luck with getting them to adulthood? Is it just something with their genetic makeup? Or is it something to do with the breed?
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I am coming to the conclusion that it is their genetic makeup.
 
ccassidy18 said:
Those are really pretty
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when you are ready to start selling in the future,you will definitely have to let me know. If those are fireworks,then what is the other one? I'm talking the cockerel in the fourth pic of your young ones.
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Blue golden wheaten colored.
 
thanks bandit for the comments. I am sold out of cubalayas until next spring. there are lots of places to get cubalayas; sandhill, ideal, urch, zook, doc Everett, Zach, jonathan.......others that I wont mention. I am looking for a pure, white, cubalaya cock that is tame, 2 years old, 7 + lbs., multi spurred and must match the standard . Zach? Jonathan? zook? I have put this out to all the cubalaya breeders and only doc answered me. truthfully, he doesn't have one.
 
ccassidy18 said:
No,I'm talking about the one with red in the wings and yellowish golden hackles and black tail feathers. I was wondering what color he was?
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I'm not quite sure what this color is, in simple genetics he is a golden wheaten with some other gentic colors mixed in. I am beginning to think I might be dealing with a Cream gene, not sure though. His mother is a silver wheaten with a duckwing gene and his father was a golden birchen with a wheaten/cream gene. There are a lot of genetics going on with him and I don't quite understand all of it yet.






cubalaya said:
thanks bandit for the comments. I am sold out of cubalayas until next spring. there are lots of places to get cubalayas; sandhill, ideal, urch, zook, doc Everett, Zach, jonathan.......others that I wont mention. I am looking for a pure, white, cubalaya cock that is tame, 2 years old, 7 + lbs., multi spurred and must match the standard . Zach? Jonathan? zook? I have put this out to all the cubalaya breeders and only doc answered me. truthfully, he doesn't have one.
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You will be hard pressed to find a 2 year old, 7+ lbs tame white cock that matches the standard. I have 2 year old white cocks, but they are not 7 lbs, I don't have any white cocks for sale. Zook has no white largefowl Cubalaya, I got all that he had.
My whites seem tame until you try to catch them and then they seem a bit crazy-ish. I will be selecting against that as time goes on and I have a bigger selection to choose from.

ccassidy18 said:
Oh...is it with all of your firework generations? Or just with a specific generation?
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All the Fireworks generations are like that, I know for sure that there is a lethal gene in there somewhere. Last year (2014 breeding season) I did a father to daughter mating and out of 30 chicks hatched, only two made it to adulthood. One hardly resmbled a Cubalaya and the other one was exceptional in all ways. I bred from him this summer and have 8 offspring from him. Shortly after the breeding season he got sickly and in spite off medications given to him he kept going backwards. When it was clear to me that he would not recover I put him down. I then opened him up to see what was wrong inside and dicovered that he had a hard lump the size of a baseball attached to his gizzard. I did not open up the lump, but just disposed of it. He would not have recovered from it.
I am going in a bit of a different direction with them next spring to see if I can get rid of the lethal gene, I know that my main fireworks colored cock is a carrier of the lethal gene, I need to be very careful of how I breed him, so as to not keep preserving the lethal gene into my chickens. Obviously the daughter I bred him to, is also a carrier of the gene. It seems to be semi dominant which means that if only one parent carries it it doesn't visibly show up in the offspring, but if both parents are carriers the offspring will have a low survival rate. I don't have definate breeding plan with those yet, but it will all come together when breeding season comes around. The plan is to get some good offspring and then discontinue breeding from the main fireworks colored cock to get away from that lethal gene as quickly as possible. I do have a cock that carries one fireworks gene and does not carry the lethal gene. I hope to use him to get back to the Fireworks color in a few generations.

ccassidy18 said:
I also forgot to ask,why is there not much luck with getting them to adulthood? Is it just something with their genetic makeup? Or is it something to do with the breed?
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It is genetic makeup, they carry a lethal short legged (creeper) gene.
 
I was going to say though,that that cockerel is definitely another color you should breed for...he is really cool looking. Also,that is gonna be kinda hard getting rid of a lethal gene...it would be like getting rid of a lethal gene in an araucana...but in your case,a little bit easier,because you can catch it early...before the gene actually solidifies into the birds strain. I had a similar thing happen with a crossing I did with a bbr's OE game bantam rooover a golden laced sebright banty hen. I was never able together the offspring to survive,and they always died around 2 weeks of age... Hopefully the fireworks color will come together nicely for you
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