Cubalaya Thread For Sharing Pics and Discussing Our Birds

[saladin]

If they get to be like this fellow, they will look pretty. I've often wondered how spangled/mottled would look on these, being he is as dark as he is?

Darks have completely black shoulders. Brown Reds should be more orange. If I were guessing I'd say this fellow is the result of a Black Red (short name for BBR) and a Black. Back to the Black and you should get some Darks. Back to a wheaten female and you'll get Black Reds.

 

[saladin]

i was going to breed my thai grade to the blacks to see if i would get black reds. i guess you will know before i do, lol.

If the Thai grades are BBR (same as Black Red) then to the Blacks and you should get what JAT has which is half way between a Dark and Dark Brown Red.

 

[saladin]

As I said Jimmy, I think we all have more important concerns. The judges seemed to really enjoy that cockerel you gave us!

Tail angle and spread are still #1. Remind me again cubalaya, what month was he born?



I also still really love our original cock;

I'm guessing the card is on the Black Red correct?

If so, there a few issues you have going on:
First, I think the bird looks really nice. I have plenty just like him.
However that said, you have two important issues to consider (forget the shafting comment completely; it's not even to be remotely considered compared to the other two issues which are far more important):
1. The bird is the wrong color. The hackles is suppose to shade to a bright flashes golden.
There are lots of variations within Black Reds. This is a very dark coloration where the hackle is the same color throughout. It's not suppose to be that way. Breed him to a very light hackled hen.
2. You have white in the tail which is only going to increase as the bird ages.
By the time this bird is 1 to 1 1/2 years old that white will reach half way down that tail feather. Many of us have this. It is a very set trait in Cubalayas because of their game ancestry. Make sure you breed him to a hen with no white at all in the tail.

I see nothing wrong with his type: which is the most important thing.
Do not take my comments offensively. I have plenty of birds that will match this one to a tee. I am just trying to help you for the future.

 

[wood&feathers]

No offense whatever Saladin. That we got anything on our cards is a bonus. The Sumatra hen that won was stunning, but the breeder who brought a group of those hens had NO males showing! I found that odd. Probably something like the white in the tail. We went for my daughter to show, and see if anyone in our region has the breed. That was a NO.

As for breeding, I covet black cubalayas. Jimmy gave me the rooster, since my main rooster is white. The dark brown red has gracefully surpassed the old boy in the flock hierarchy. I am glad to have a larger, lower tailed, smaller combed bird breeding the girls. My older wheaten hen and 2 wheaten pullets are all rather light colored, and I look forward to seeing what happens there.

 

[saladin]

With the hens being a lighter coloration in the hackles then you should be fine; or even better than fine; you should be in great shape.

 

[4hmom]

If they get to be like this fellow, they will look pretty. I've often wondered how spangled/mottled would look on these, being he is as dark as he is?

i think that spangled cubalayas look very nice
heres some pics of some of my bantam spangled

 

[cubalaya]

this guy had the right coloring. woods wanted to buy him. so did everyone that saw him. he turned into a manfighter and had a funny sound when crowing so i culled him. have one more thai grade stag left and i will try to get some pics up of him. he has the lighter shading on the hackles too. hopefully he will be bred to my pure wheaton hens this spring.

never like spangled on cubalayas but would love to have a LHK thai sometime in the future.
that didn't sound right. sorry. i should have said that they look very nice but just not for me.

 

[saladin]

Ain't that the way it always is? The real keeper gets sick, gets caught by predators, or is messed up in the head. LOL. You have just described my chicken yard.

 

[wood&feathers]

I examined the remaining two eggs after the broody buried them and gave up. One was a fully developed black and died at pipping. The other appears to only have developed for a week. That was 3 healthy chicks out of 5 eggs, both parents under a year old.

Bet they do even better next summer, barring the above mentioned pratfalls.

 

[cubalaya]

Ain't that the way it always is? The real keeper gets sick, gets caught by predators, or is messed up in the head. LOL. You have just described my chicken yard.

if it was easy then everyone would be breeding chickens, lol.