strated on the bb red oh 05 or so, got to be a huge pain trying to get them right, then Finally Don Hartman sold me some of his super nice ones, so that ended up solving that problem Thank God.
Took his good bb reds to my cuckoo males last year. Got the cuckoo males with a lot of red and yellow leakage from them, hens showing a little color but not much.
Then this year, crossed those males back to the bb red hens, and that was it. Yes they make all sorts of odd ball colors along the way, that's for sure. Havent gotten any blue cuckoos that way or nothing like that, made them off my splash.
got barred, black, bb red, and crele mainly off them.
Now the F1's back to each other...that gave a ton of weird colors. Some I'm keeping to play with, some were just too far out there.
Anyway, hopeing these chicks color up right this year. So far they are looking good to a true crele color. If not, I'll just keep taking the males back to the bb reds til they get where I like them.
Hate you had to stop, I knew back then threw the grape vine you were working on them.
Fortunately, with Don's birds, I have had to do any outcrossing with them any more, so it's all color work instead of type and color.
Will keep you posted on how they are coming.
Am also working on the red pyles and goldnecks too. They did have to be outcrossed to get the dominate white into the mix. Both are on F2 back to d'anver now, looking fair, but still got several years of type correction to get them where I want them