De-worming chickens.

[mamadawn]

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Originally Posted by flockwatcher 
On Wazine not being recommended for laying hens, remember that these are recommendations for commercial operations, and sometimes have more to do with govt. regulations than chicken health.  People give Wazine then eat the eggs all the time (I don't know the withdrawal for Wazine.)


On worming, I go by Dawg53's recommendations, because he keeps current with this.  The only wormer officially recommended for chickens is piperazine (Wazine is one brand) and it only gets roundworms, so you can actually lose your chickens if you're not willing to venture into the world of cattle, sheep, etc. wormers and they happen to have something like gapeworm or tapeworm.


Valbazen (albendazole) is the only wormer that gets all chicken worms, and it is safer because it acts slowly, so it cannot cause the chicken to get clogged up with dead worms, which can happen with other wormers if they are infested enough.  It does not kill mites, which Eprinex pour on does, but Eprinex is becoming less and less effective on the worms it used to take care of.  And Eprinex does not kill lice.


Valbazen dose:  0.5 cc (ml) by mouth for each large fowl bird, 0.25cc for bantams.  Repeat in 10 days.  Egg withdrawal is a total of 24 days.  It's actually 14 days after each dose, which adds up to 24 days.


There are a number of natural wormers people use, such as pumpkin seeds and cayenne.  I have not read anything to indicate any of them actually rid a chicken of worms. 


My links on worming:

http://healthybirds.umd.edu/Disease/Deworming Birds.pdf

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=5770173#p5770173



https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=323454

This is the best all around information about de-working that I have read. I'm book marking this. Thanks for breaking it down.

 

[Jacqdiva]

How old should chicks be before worming them with Sykes big l wormer?

 

[Shabana]

I use flubenvet wormer (no egg withdrawal) and I have just wormed all my flocks including my 8 week old chicks with no problems.

With flubenvet you mix the powder into their food and they self dose ie: large birds eat more and chicks eat less. I would thoroughly reccomend it.

 

[Jacqdiva]

Hi thanks for the info. I have big L from my feed store it is an Australian product. We are quite rural here so I haven't seen the one you mention. Plus I would have to see if they have it in Oz.

 

[Fancychooklady]

Hi thanks for the info. I have big L from my feed store it is an Australian product. We are quite rural here so I haven't seen the one you mention. Plus I would have to see if they have it in Oz.

Levamisole only treats for round worm.
Flubenvet isn't available in Aus.

 

[dawg53]

Quote: You are thinking of piperazine. Levamisole treats various types of worms.

 

[Fancychooklady]

I've considered buying this product myself but it's only labelled effective against large roundworm . If it treats for other worms then they are not marketing it very well.

http://www.sykes.net.au/sykes/bigwormpoultrypigs.htm

 

[ashtree]

I've read this whole thread looking for an answer to my question, but no such luck. When working with valbazen what's the best time to clean the coop? This is the 1st treatment, I will do the next in 10 days. Should I clean the coop tomorrow or the next day? Also what should I do with old bedding? I ask because I've read that valbazen is a little slower in its worm killing process and that makes me think I should stall a little on the big cleanup. Also, is there anything special I should do when cleaning. We live in a humid environment and I use pine shavings in all my coops with DE added. Though, to be honest, I'm not sure why I bother with DE anymore.

Also are there breeds less susceptible to getting worms? NN, fayoimies (sp?) SFHs? Just curious when considering future flock planning.

 

[KristanB]

Has anyone heard of using Quest Max horse dewormer on your chickens? I was talkin to a man who uses this. He says it takes care of all worms and all mites on his birds. I didnt get how much he uses per gallon of water. Any comments are appriciated..thanks!

 

[Fancychooklady]

Has anyone heard of using Quest Max horse dewormer on your chickens? I was talkin to a man who uses this. He says it takes care of all worms and all mites on his birds. I didnt get how much he uses per gallon of water. Any comments are appriciated..thanks!

Moxidectin like ivermectin belongs to the chemical class of macrocyclic lactones. The difference is moxidectin is stronger and is deposited into body fat at a higher quantity. It has a longer residual effect than ivermectin but if overdosed can be fatal. It is also poorly soluable in water.
The other active ingredient in quest is praziquantel , which once again if overdosed can be toxic to the birds liver. It is fatal to small birds such as finches.
These chemicals are absorbed into the bloodstream so your guess would be as good as mine on a suitable withholding period.

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