De-Worming Med?

[Kiki]

Here is proof garlic doesn't get rid of worms:
https://academic.oup.com/ps/article/90/2/364/1534034

 

[Conman]

Oh boy I hate to be the bearer of bad news today but this too is just hog wash.
Not true.
And I say this as a fan of both Cayenne pepper and garlic.

Ok sorry but try some apple cider vinegar not garlic my bad wrong info i apologize.

 

[Kiki]

Ok sorry but try some apple cider vinegar not garlic my bad wrong info i apologize.

ACV is still wrong.
It does NOT get rid of worms either.
Ask this person if she still believes ACV works.
She did at one time until she saw this:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...elp-i-have-broody-hens.1187728/#post-18757670

 

[Kiki]

Ok sorry but try some apple cider vinegar not garlic my bad wrong info i apologize.

You don't have to apologize.
I can't recommend enough to read more.
It seems that everyone seems to JUST believe everything they read.
Everyone should do more research.

 

[Conman]

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ACV is still wrong.
It does NOT get rid of worms either.
Ask this person if she still believes ACV works.
She did at one time until she saw this:
https://www.backyardchickens.com/th...elp-i-have-broody-hens.1187728/#post-18757670

K sorry just stop pooping on my party lol.

 

[Kiki]

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K sorry just stop pooping on my party lol.

Please don't feel like you need to apologize.
I am not trying to poop on anything.
I simply want people to educate themselves.

 

[Conman]

There is no evidence that says you are right to the apple cider vinegar.

1http://www.google.com/amp/s/m.wikihow.com/Worm-Chickens%3fam

there is my evidence.

 

[Conman]

There is no evidence that says you are right to the apple cider vinegar.

1http://www.google.com/amp/s/m.wikihow.com/Worm-Chickens%3fam

there is my evidence.

Ok i didnt mean to send this this "argument" is over

 

[Kiki]

There is no evidence that says you are right to the apple cider vinegar.

1http://www.google.com/amp/s/m.wikihow.com/Worm-Chickens%3fam

there is my evidence.

 

[Lady of McCamley]

I was looking around on amazon and for a de-wormer all I could find was Ivermectin, but it says its a 'pour on' and used for mites. What should I be using as a de-wormer for my chickens?

also, I think I've read that I shouldn't eat the eggs while they've been medicated... how long shouldn't I eat their eggs?

@Frazzemrat1

Whether or not your pull eggs depends on what you use.

Currently, there is no over the counter worm medicine for chickens. All meds are now used off label as the FDA has seen fit to remove manufacturing approval for poultry wormers. No one is making poultry de-wormer since the 2017 rulings removing a lot of drugs from the food chain.

I am in agreement that DE does nothing. The science is simply not there, and there is real risk of respiratory irritation for the birds (and yourself).

Durvet Strike iii, 2016 version, had Hygromycin B, a well established wormer, that the FDA allowed without egg pull times as Hygromycin B showed low egg residue.

Durvet Strike iii, 2017 version to current, has nothing in it to recommend it for de-worming. It is "natural" with no de-wormer meds and thus has nothing in to to require egg pull times. Its ingredients, from the Durvet website, are:
Yeast Culture (Saccharomyces cerevisiae), Pumpkin Seed (flavor), Wormwood (flavor), Clove (flavor), Oregano (flavor), Garlic (flavor), Montmorillonite Clay, Diatomaceous Earth 0.50% (anticaking agent).

Pumpkin seeds, wormwood, oregano, and garlic have shown the ability to somewhat flush the intestinal track of poultry, if in large enough doses (note Durvet can only indicate "flavor" as the content is not great enough for actual content %). Herbals must be given consistently to be effective, and more importantly, herbals do NOT kill the worms. They simply flush adult worms from the system leaving them alive and well, ready to be picked up by the next bird or hatching further in the bird. To be truly effective, per organic farm standards, you must regularly rotate your fields to keep this build up from causing bird decline from worm overload.

If you believe that you have a worm overload, as all birds have a low level of infestation kept in check by their immune systems, I can recommend @KikisGirls suggestions for med types and dosages.

Egg pull time often has nothing to do with the safety of the eggs, as many of these meds are used in humans or allowed in other countries with no pull time, plus the drug residue in the eggs is minuscule and well below the level given to a human.

The main reason for egg pull time is so that if your eggs were ever tested, no drugs that were not approved by the FDA could be found should someone outside your family consume them. If there is a problem with your eggs (someone got sick), you would be liable for whatever penalties the FDA deems fit for using non-approved drugs in food for humans. Therefore, the 10 days to sometimes 30 days pull times are so that it is highly unlikely any residue could be found in your eggs. For strict family use, it matters little other than any health concern there might be for sensitivity to a particular drug type.

Worming is sadly a surprisingly controversial topic and sometimes enthusiasm outstrips science and truth. I can only recommend that you read a lot, decide your philosophy of chicken management and food purity

As to the animal science, meds work, herbals delay the needs for meds only IF you also have strict field and litter management to slow the inevitable build up of live worms in the environment.

My thoughts and experiences,
LofMc