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It is absorbing the poop and keeping the smell down. The pine shavings dry out the poop so it doesn't end up rotting. If you use that method then you need to compost the litter in a conventional, moist, fashion before using it on your garden. I use two methods. I use dry litter (shredded paper - I have tons of confidential material to get rid of. Good thing the chooks can't read) in the hen house and change it often. There is not enough depth there for deep litter. I compost that stuff before use. I use deep litter in my run with loads of garden waste, regularly topped up and rained on so it decomposes on site. The bottom layers are ready for the garden when I clean it out.

Ok, so is the DLM not something that I should be doing? Before I was changing out the coop every month and putting new litter in. The problems with that was
that the used litter was starting to stack up and I was really wearing my self out. I heard about this method and was very excited to start this so that I can
enjoy my chickens a little bit more. Now I am hearing that this method is not really working in my coop because I have an elevated coop with a solid wood floor.
what is best to do then?

The beauty of DLM as producing compost is that you use a high carbon litter and the chickens add the nitrogen so by the time it is mature you have a great carbon/nitrogen mix so it decomposes very quickly to lovely rich brown garden food. If you change your litter too often you aren't adding enough poop to the carbon so this stuff will break down very slowly and you'll have piles of it laying around. If you want to keep changing it that often you can add something high nitrogen to it, like lawn clippings, and it will break down and be ready for the garden sooner. You need to keep it moist while it is decomposing too. I am a big fan of composting and I have a big garden so i am biased but I would keep going the way you are and add nitrogen to your used litter. There are lots of other methods. i recently saw someone who used rice hulls mixed in with zeolite. The zeolite absorbs the nitrogen and the rice hulls decompose slowly. She has a raised wooden floor run like yours and doesn't need to change the litter very often. She is on here I think. I can PM you with her username if you want more details.
 
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No, you're fine and you're doing great! I think people are getting side tracked on what is working here for you. The other concern that has been raised is the worry that your DLM might rot out your wood floor. If you have treated it and really think that is going to hold up over the years, then you're fine. I have a raised coop, wood floor, BUT I am laying down vinyl over my floor to protect it from the DLM. There is nothing wrong with DLM in your raised coop.
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Just be sure your floor is protected and you're set.
 
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No, you're fine and you're doing great! I think people are getting side tracked on what is working here for you. The other concern that has been raised is the worry that your DLM might rot out your wood floor. If you have treated it and really think that is going to hold up over the years, then you're fine. I have a raised coop, wood floor, BUT I am laying down vinyl over my floor to protect it from the DLM. There is nothing wrong with DLM in your raised coop.
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Just be sure your floor is protected and you're set.

Ok thanks. My coop floor is protected with the same stuff that I think is used on decks for water protection. So far the floor is fine not showing any signs of rot or anything like that.
Thanks for helping to clarify some concerns for me.
 
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Ok, I will do that. How should I do that and keep the chickens out of the coop at the same time? I am not sure I remember how long it takes
that stuff to dry. When we did it before we did not have chickens living in it at the time either. Thanks for the tip.
 
Ok, I went out to the chicken coop today to do my routine maintance for the day and I did notice an ammonia smell
coming from the bedding.

I am worried now...
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I added new bedding and then some DE and mixed well it seemed to help a lot.

I am wondering now, have I done something wrong? Is there anything that I can do to keep the smell
from coming back? If you can recommend something that I can do without totally starting over with the bedding that would be great,
I would feel like I totally failed with this whole DLM thing.

Things I have on had are pine shavings, DE, and Hydrated Lime. Can any of these thing work? Thanks.
 
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I notice my pine shavings really smell when they've been in them all night. But if they go out during the day, the poo has time to dry out. It will need plenty of ventilation for it to air out. It sounds like the materials you are using are fine. So they need some air and fluffing and time off. About the water sealer- do that in the Spring or early Summer when you can leave your birds out in their run all day long and let your coop dry out then. It will dry quicker on a nice warm day if you get it done in the morning and let it dry all day.
 
In a well built coop with no water leaks, an ammonia smell normally means that you need a higher percentage of shavings in contact with the amount of poop in the coop.

If your litter has been going for awhile, it generally means you need to add more fresh shavings. It will be fine and you haven't ruined anything. It will all work out.

If it's in the very beginning of managing the litter in the coop and you put down a really deep base of clean litter, it means you need to give the litter a stir, to bring some of the clean, dry shavings up from the bottom.

The way I do it, I don't do a lot of stirring. I use thinner additions of shavings, more often. Just as needed and usually in the more high traffic areas. It gets layered, like a lasagne. It's less work and the clean shavings are always on top. As I gained experience, I got into a rhythm of how often and what quantity of shavings I needed to add. Every coop has a rhythm, depending on the stocking rate.

There's only two ways to make a mistake. If you add too many shavings, it gets too dry, too dusty and also doesn't break down. No big deal, stop adding shavings and they'll poop some more. If you don't add enough shavings, it gets too wet, stinky and you smell ammonia. No big deal, just add more shavings, stir if needed and see how it is the next day. If that doesn't do it, add some more. It will eventually fix it. Litter is easy to fix.
 
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Great! thank you so much for you post, I really appreciate your input. I will do as you said and just keep adding till I get the right
balance. I am so glad that it is easy to fix, I was so afraid that I would have to pull it all out and start all over. Thanks again.
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Roy Roo--I personally think you are overthinking this thing! I have an ancient coop--the litter on the bottom is most definitely dirt by now on a cement floor. Occasionally I do get some ammonia smells--it is just the nature of the beast! Just get some of that PDZ or use baking soda or bentonite, throw some scratch and let them go at it! THe birds are out during the day--a little ammonia in the coop wont hurt them. Many of my birds choose to stay in the coop even though they can go outside so maybe it doesnt bother them as much as we think? Terri O
 

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