destruction and disposal orders HELP

[Chickielady]

just want to clarify that i ordered PEA eggs and not quail eggs...

also, it's my understanding that they had ALL of their birds put down... (i'm thankful every morning that i'm awakened by my screaming peas --- i'd hate to wake up to silence...)

.. and while i probably would've felt the NPIP sucked if my birds were put down, right now i'm extremely grateful that they're there...

.. to anyone still ordering eggs -- make SURE that the people you're buying from are not only NPIP, but also AI compliant....i personally won't be selling any eggs until 2016 which will give me ample time to make sure i do things right --- had i not run into the issues that i have, i'd still be in my own little world --- and though i 'dodged the bullet' this time, i don't know how long my luck would've held out... (at the VERY least, WASH your eggs if you're still buying -- it just may be what saved my behind...)

 

[Sylvester017]

SURPRISE!!! At least in Cowley. Dog licenses are due the end of January, and livestock permits are as well. Mid February Lisa (town clerk) gives Dan (only town cop) a list of the names who haven't paid yet and he goes door to door reminding folks. I got "reminded" once that Molly needed her tag, and I was on the town council at the time!

Here livestock is allowed in town. There's a guy behind me with a couple of steers he raises up annually. There are goats, sheep, horses, mules, donkeys, ducks, chickens and turkeys. Poultry doesn't need any kind of permit and there is no limit to what you can have. Although large livestock needs a permit - based on the number of critters you have - the fee is nominal, just a few bucks each. 4H kids pay less if they bring their 4H book in with them. I pay $3.50 for Molly's dog license.

Now that is cute and funny! You need to be a very heavily populated area or a cozy small town to get animal control involved and apparently everyplace in between gets ignored -

At least that's what I'm getting from all the posts in this thread - some have said even their own vets don't remind them it's time for dog vaccination renewals!

 

[Sylvester017]

.. and while i probably would've felt the NPIP sucked if my birds were put down, right now i'm extremely grateful that they're there...

I have mixed feelings about regulations also but only have negative feelings about how they're enforced/interpreted by individual agents.

.. to anyone still ordering eggs -- make SURE that the people you're buying from are not only NPIP, but also AI compliant....i personally won't be selling any eggs until 2016 which will give me ample time to make sure i do things right --- had i not run into the issues that i have, i'd still be in my own little world --- and though i 'dodged the bullet' this time, i don't know how long my luck would've held out... (at the VERY least, WASH your eggs if you're still buying -- it just may be what saved my behind...)

Before a breeder sent my order they asked me to check my State's A/G to see what or if there were restrictions before the birds were shipped to me. At the time 2 months ago the regulation was that NPIP certification be attached and that the individual birds shipped were tested for AI and Newcastles. There was no other import regulation from out-of-state which bothered me because at the time the Midwest was having major cases of slaughters going on Luckily at the time the State my birds came from was AI negative and still is.

I don't hatch/raise chicks of any breed but from what I've been researching is it ok to wash eggs before incubating? I thought the bloom on the shell was to protect it and shouldn't be washed off?

 

[MrsBachbach]

I dipped my eggs in a warm sanitizer solution for the first time this year. I had better hatch rates than years past. Now, it may be because I used an independent humidity reader this year (although it was off 7% I later found out), or it may be because of using the dipping solution. I only lightly rubbed any soiled eggs with a soft sponge if the dip didn't take off the poop. I immediately set them on a large towel and pat them dry a bit.
I really think it is more helpful than harmful and even some well known breeders do this every hatch. There are more nasties that can be carried on eggs and transmitted to chicks than you think. Take Mareks for instance. If it is being carried on the outside of the egg shell (feathers always attach to eggs and I would think the virus can attach too) then when the chicks hatch in the incubator they are immediately exposed don't you think? If there is some fecal matter on an egg, it's still there after the chicks hatch and chicks can be exposed to whatever that fecal matter may contain by pecking at it.
I didn't find a downside in doing it this year so I think I will continue to do it in the future.

 

[WVduckchick]

I dipped my eggs in a warm sanitizer solution for the first time this year.  I had better hatch rates than years past.  Now, it may be because I used an independent humidity reader this year (although it was off 7% I later found out), or it may be because of using the dipping solution.  I only lightly rubbed any soiled eggs with a soft sponge if the dip didn't take off the poop.  I immediately set them on a large towel and pat them dry a bit.
I really think it is more helpful than harmful and even some well known breeders do this every hatch.  There are more nasties that can be carried on eggs and transmitted to chicks than you think.  Take Mareks for instance.  If it is being carried on the outside of the egg shell (feathers always attach to eggs and I would think the virus can attach too) then when the chicks hatch in the incubator they are immediately exposed don't you think?  If there is some fecal matter on an egg, it's still there after the chicks hatch and chicks can be exposed to whatever that fecal matter may contain by pecking at it.
I didn't find a downside in doing it this year so I think I will continue to do it in the future.

I was just thinking about the sanitizer after reading Johns post about washing eggs. I've always just rubbed them to get excess off also, but never washed. Thanks for the input, I may try that next time.

 

[Sylvester017]

just want to clarify that i ordered PEA eggs and not quail eggs...

also, it's my understanding that they had ALL of their birds put down... (i'm thankful every morning that i'm awakened by my screaming peas --- i'd hate to wake up to silence...)

.. and while i probably would've felt the NPIP sucked if my birds were put down, right now i'm extremely grateful that they're there...

.. to anyone still ordering eggs -- make SURE that the people you're buying from are not only NPIP, but also AI compliant....i personally won't be selling any eggs until 2016 which will give me ample time to make sure i do things right --- had i not run into the issues that i have, i'd still be in my own little world --- and though i 'dodged the bullet' this time, i don't know how long my luck would've held out... (at the VERY least, WASH your eggs if you're still buying -- it just may be what saved my behind...)
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Originally Posted by Chickielady

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I dipped my eggs in a warm sanitizer solution for the first time this year. I had better hatch rates than years past. Now, it may be because I used an independent humidity reader this year (although it was off 7% I later found out), or it may be because of using the dipping solution. I only lightly rubbed any soiled eggs with a soft sponge if the dip didn't take off the poop. I immediately set them on a large towel and pat them dry a bit.
I really think it is more helpful than harmful and even some well known breeders do this every hatch. There are more nasties that can be carried on eggs and transmitted to chicks than you think. Take Mareks for instance. If it is being carried on the outside of the egg shell (feathers always attach to eggs and I would think the virus can attach too) then when the chicks hatch in the incubator they are immediately exposed don't you think? If there is some fecal matter on an egg, it's still there after the chicks hatch and chicks can be exposed to whatever that fecal matter may contain by pecking at it.
I didn't find a downside in doing it this year so I think I will continue to do it in the future.

WHAT SANITIZER SOLUTION BRAND DID YOU USE?

I was just thinking about the sanitizer after reading Johns post about washing eggs. I've always just rubbed them to get excess off also, but never washed. Thanks for the input, I may try that next time.

IT'S GREAT GETTING INPUT FROM PPL ACTUALLY EXPERIENCED IN HATCHING AFTER WASHING THEIR EGGS!

 

[seminolewind]

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I do believe that Marek's cannot survive on an egg shell. (Diseases of Poultry, chief Editor Saif)

I have a very simple way of cleaning eggs. I pick up the egg, spit on it and rub it on my shirt. Works every time.

 

[Blooie]

I do believe that Marek's cannot survive on an egg shell. (Diseases of Poultry, chief Editor Saif)

I have a very simple way of cleaning eggs. I pick up the egg, spit on it and rub it on my shirt. Works every time.

Well, that's just fine and dandy for you, seminolewind - now you need to come over here and clean the soda off my computer screen!!!!!

 

[seminolewind]

Quote: You spewed?

 

[drumstick diva]