Devastating bird flu culling

[ElGoose]

It’s pointless logic, if public safety were their concern, well people have much more contact with their backyard flocks compared to commercial poultry or wild birds, so for the public’s safety it would be in everyone’s best interest to vaccinate backyard poultry…..but as usual special interest doesn’t actually care.

Vaccination is the best treatment of bird flu through prevention, however I remember reading one study out of Europe that found promising results in administering oseltamivir “tamiflu” in conjunction with a corticosteroid, like prednisone or dexamethasone at the first signs of illness or suspected infection and administered throughout the duration of illness.
Basically it’s the same principle of how people with severe immune responses to viruses like Covid or bird flu are treated: corticosteroids to stop the body from producing more cytokines and nuking the person’s organs while the antiviral works on killing the virus.

Once upon a time tamiflu was sold over the counter here in the U.S but thanks to people clearing shelves of it during the swine flu outbreak in the early 2000s it became prescription only. If you can get it over the counter where you are it’s something to have around.

I’ll have a look into it thank you ‍
It’s really hard to find any kind of poultry care products in the uk for some reason, a lot of it is vet prescription only provided you’re lucky enough to have a vet that stocks it lol
Because of where I live it’s hard to prevent wild birds from getting into the smaller garden space or pooping in it, I try my best to hose down the grass so that it doesn’t fester

I wish people out there would see things from the point of view of people who love their poultry birds , everyone brushes off uk avian influenza until it hits their location - then suddenly they realise how harsh they can be.
Even now on this post I’m being told to get a grip, they fail to realise that the affected zone is right around where I live and that my birds are genuinely at risk. they’ve already started culling many wild geese on the premises. They seem to think that they’re testing each individual bird before culling… nope lol.
If just a few has tested positive, they’ll kill all that might have been in contact with them.

 

[ElGoose]

Exaggeration helps no-one, including yourself

Did you just come here to be snarky and argue with someone for the sake of it? Uk Ravensthorpe and Huddersfield, many wild geese have just been culled - that is not an exaggeration.
Many of those wild geese come up onto my land to graze and nest, you’re acting like there’s a zero percent chance that my birds will catch it and be culled, or be deemed as having been in contact with wild geese. I’m not just some random person living way outside of that affected range having a fit, there’s warning signs up on the roads warning people of the presence of avian influenza in the area.

You say that they’re doing things besides culling, but they’ve already developed vaccines before - they just won’t administer them to wild birds and I see no flock owners able to get their hands on any real preventative measures against the virus. All I see is it spreading like wildfire, they’ve culled over a million wild birds this year already in the uk.

 

[ElGoose]

Exaggeration helps no-one, including yourself

is just false. E.g. The page I linked to says explicitly
"
Defra continues to invest in bird flu research and monitors the situation globally.

We work with the Veterinary Medicines Directorate (VMD) to monitor the development of vaccines for birds.

Find out more information on avian influenza (bird flu) vaccination and the work of the avian influenza vaccination taskfo

Get a grip. Go to the gov website and inform yourself of the actual policies. They will not cull your birds unless one or more of them tests positive.

There is currently only 1 small area of the country affected: see
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/bird-flu-avian-influenza-latest-situation-in-england

I’d rather you just leave my post alone, your only responses have been “stop whining I don’t care” and sending me links to pages I’ve already seen.
You’re helping nobody and only escalating something that didn’t need to be escalated.
If you like arguing, find a debate thread, I’m not here to entertain you.

 

[Goosebaby]

I’ll have a look into it thank you ‍
It’s really hard to find any kind of poultry care products in the uk for some reason, a lot of it is vet prescription only provided you’re lucky enough to have a vet that stocks it lol
Because of where I live it’s hard to prevent wild birds from getting into the smaller garden space or pooping in it, I try my best to hose down the grass so that it doesn’t fester

I wish people out there would see things from the point of view of people who love their poultry birds , everyone brushes off uk avian influenza until it hits their location - then suddenly they realise how harsh they can be.
Even now on this post I’m being told to get a grip, they fail to realise that the affected zone is right around where I live and that my birds are genuinely at risk. they’ve already started culling many wild geese on the premises. They seem to think that they’re testing each individual bird before culling… nope lol.
If just a few has tested positive, they’ll kill all that might have been in contact with them.

I know exactly how you feel. I’m on the pacific flyway with the valley being a major wintering ground for countless species. Winter, spring, and fall are now times of anxiety, summer gives us poultry enthusiasts here a bit of a break and then it’s right back to wondering every day if we’re next. It isn’t something to be dismissed, I’ve seen entire flocks here killed by the virus in just days, waterfowl rescues have to shut their doors because they got hit, and hatcheries like Metzer lose entire flocks. The fear is real and it’s horrible. It would nice to know that we’re just being paranoid and overreacting, but that just isn’t the case.

 

[WildNectarine]

I know exactly how you feel. I’m on the pacific flyway with the valley being a major wintering ground for countless species. Winter, spring, and fall are now times of anxiety, summer gives us poultry enthusiasts here a bit of a break and then it’s right back to wondering every day if we’re next. It isn’t something to be dismissed, I’ve seen entire flocks here killed by the virus in just days, waterfowl rescues have to shut their doors because they got hit, and hatcheries like Metzer lose entire flocks. The fear is real and it’s horrible. It would nice to know that we’re just being paranoid and overreacting, but that just isn’t the case.

It baffles me how rude some people here can be, I raise indoor quail, my birds are some of the most important aspects of my life, and while I could still bring something home to them, I can’t even begin to imagine how the both of you must feel, it must be agonizing, I’m so sorry. To hell with avian flu.

 

[ElGoose]

I know exactly how you feel. I’m on the pacific flyway with the valley being a major wintering ground for countless species. Winter, spring, and fall are now times of anxiety, summer gives us poultry enthusiasts here a bit of a break and then it’s right back to wondering every day if we’re next. It isn’t something to be dismissed, I’ve seen entire flocks here killed by the virus in just days, waterfowl rescues have to shut their doors because they got hit, and hatcheries like Metzer lose entire flocks. The fear is real and it’s horrible. It would nice to know that we’re just being paranoid and overreacting, but that just isn’t the case.

Yep… I’d love for it to just be over anxiousness and overreacting.
Either way people will find a way to belittle you sadly - if I put up all the preventative measures and made sure they were super safe someone will call it stupidity, but if my birds died under those safety measures that same person will call me an idiot for not being safer. You can never win!

 

[Goosebaby]

Yep… I’d love for it to just be over anxiousness and overreacting.
Either way people will find a way to belittle you sadly - if I put up all the preventative measures and made sure they were super safe someone will call it stupidity, but if my birds died under those safety measures that same person will call me an idiot for not being safer. You can never win!

Ikr!