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Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by MyPetNugget, Aug 12, 2014.
It looks normal to me.
Someone in the flock pooped out a big mass of roundworms the other night. Found them in the poop on the dropboard all dead. I have already wormed two birds that were molting and who I suspected may need worming. I did have one bird who didn't want to drink all of her medicated water though. I may have to try her again. I've been individually treating birds with Wazine as they go into molt, so I don't have to toss my eggs.
My question for the experts! When they poop out large amounts of worms, does this mean the wormer worked? Or do worms just naturally die after exposure to air? I was in the coop fairly early yesterday morning when I found them. In the past three days I had been feeding ACV and garlic in a wet mash for them. I'm wondering if the garlic played any roll in this expulsion?
My chickens had some kind of internal parasites. "poopy bottoms". My research pointed to Safeguard (fenbendazole). It is the safest (tests have found it difficult to overdose... need many, many times the usual dosage) and it treats a very broad spectrum of parasites. Since I couldn't ID the parasites, I chose Safeguard to kill whatever it was. Wanted to get it right and get it over with. But, it came back. Told everyone no eggs for a month or longer 'til I get it taken care of. Treated them for 3 days, then came back and gave them one more dose after 10 days. It's been about a month, and everyone's bottoms are clean and egg production is back up.
The first time, I gave them the Safeguard paste. One tube lasted through 3 doses for 12 chickens with a little left over. The big girls got a large pea sized squirt in the mouth and the smaller one got a standard pea size amount (roosting time was the best time to pick them up and dose them). Next time I bought the liquid and gave them 1.2 ml.. a tiny bit more for the biggest two and bit less for the littlest Americauna. There were feather loss symptoms that indicated it might be giardia. I got the dosage from here: https://sites.google.com/a/poultrypedia.com/poultrypedia/medicine-chart
We scrambled the eggs and fed them to our dogs. Dosages for dogs that I found were 1 ml per 5 pounds body weight. So, the amount my 40 pound dogs were getting from the eggs were absolutely minimal. The dogs LOVED the eggs. Since egg production shot up after treatment, we had a LOT of eggs to use up. We scrambled them and put them in the freezer. We defrost one container at a time to mix with their food. I think feeding the eggs back to the chickens would just increase the amount of time you would have to wait to eat them. The EU had an application for an official withdrawal time for eggs which found that residues levels dropped "rapidly" starting 2 days after the last does and were below the acceptable residue levels for other animal products 8-9 days after last dose. We began eating them 7 days after the last dose. My husband refused to wait and ate them the whole time. He didn't die.
The Safeguard dose for dogs is 50mg/kg for three days (.5 ml per 2.2 pounds).
@Double Kindness Figure out a way to weigh them and the don't freak out until they start to lose weight.
I went to 3 feed stores over the weekend, none had valbazen, every dewormer they gave me, I already have! What the cluck. Jeanette is still off her lay, it was a different chicken laying the new blue/green eggs. But Jeanette is back to her normal self as far as personality and appetite and comes hauling fluffybottom to the gate of the run when they hear me coming outside to give them grasses, dandelions and marigold heads. Fresh garlic free choice is not touched. Egg shells/oyster shells free choice are. Having roosting issues, Jeanette and Missy both refuse anyone to roost with them, so 7 other chickens including my roo are on the other 2 roosts..
I ran into the same thing here and had to order valbazen online. I ordered from Jeffers http://www.jefferspet.com/products/valbazen-broad-spectrum-dewormer.
Since I just finished deworming with wazine and safegaurd I think I have a bit of time to order the valbazen. But always best to be prepared.
You have plenty of time.
I would like to de-worm my "teenage" chickens before they come into lay in September (hopefully). I usually give my regular girls 1/2 cc for the smaller ones or 3/4 cc for the heftier girls of Valbazen. Should I drop the dose to 1/4 cc for the "teenagers" (15 weeks old now)?