deworming with wazine-17

[jake99]

just bought wazine as a preventive.don't know if they have worms or not.they are very healthy.the problem is the directions are for 400 chickens and gallons of water. i have two and a quart waterer,iknow theres a math solution to it but i'll be dammed if i know it. any one help please. thank you.

 

[dawg53]

1 quart= 946.35295 ml. You can use a 10ml measuring spoon to mix the wazine into the quart of water or use a syringe. CC's on a syringe are the same measurements as ML's.
You stated your hens are healthy. Why worm? No need to unless they are acting lethargic, not eating/drinking etc...

 

[Covey Rise Plantation]

Why worm? if you wait till they're acting lethargic, not eating or drinking, You've waited way to long

 

[dawg53]

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I suppose you give antibiotics to your birds when they're not sick too.

 

[riftnreef]

I don't see worming a chicken as being any different than worming a puppy. It is a very common practice for a lot of us to worm on a preventative basis. I like to hit mine late fall after egg production has slowed so I don't have to worry much about lost production. Now that being said...natural wormers such as pumpkins are very useful.

If you think about a chickens environment and what they eat out of the yard...it's almost certain that they will pick up worms here and there, so why not. I also have to agree...if you wait until you see fecal worms, or worms in eggs, the amount of damage done inside the hen would be devestating and she would likely never fully recover. There is a great difference in worming and antibiotic treatmens IMHO.

 

[dawg53]

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You dont worm a puppy everytime you take it to a vet...a fecal test is done first to determine if it has worms and what type and what to treat it with. A fecal test for chickens as well to determine if they have worms and what wormer to treat the type of worms. I agree about the environment having alot to do with it. In any case whether it be a wormer or antibiotics, either is tough on their system. This is why probiotics and extra protein are recommended after dosing with either. ETA: Resistance to wormers and antibiotics over time is another issue.

 

[furryloo]

Our bottle of wazine-17 calls for 2 fluid ounces per gallon for 100 birds. I simply filled up a gallon jug with water and added two ounces. Then enclosed them for a day so that the only water they drank was that one. We have anywhere from 9-30 chickens at a time. Discard the rest that they don't drink.

We keep all of our animals on a worm treatment now. This includes our cats as well. We didn't initially in an effort to be all natural. I was in the same boat that any medication is unnecessary. But after two round-worm incidents, the reality is that animals get worms and it can be harmful in many different ways. In both cases, our child was affected as well. This resulted in treating every family member, sanitizing everything from the floors to our clothes and our bedding. It was an expensive process both times and something that could have been easily prevented. The second time it happened, I got smarter. After much research - animals that are free-ranging on any level need to be kept on a preventative plan. Free-ranging animals and backyard chickens are the most vulnerable as they are omnivores sharing space with wild-life. My chickens eat mice and shrews on a regular basis. After talking to quite a few small farms that raise their animals naturally, they do this as well. It's standard practice to protect their animals from worms. It's a reality that comes with natural free-ranging practices. Another preventative is to keep outsiders away from your chickens. Don't let strangers handle or touch your chickens as they can be carrying eggs, etc.

Our preventative plan is this: Monthly flea treatments for the cats (dogs should be included) as roundworm eggs live in fleas and this is the MOST common type of infestation. Roundworm typically live in fleas that in turn live on dogs, cats, raccoons, squirrels, mice, etc. These fleas drop eggs on the ground and the chickens ingest it. Both our cats and chickens now get de-wormed every 6 to 12 months at the same time. Drontal de-wormer is recommended for household pets. We put Food Grade Diatomaceous Earth in both the cat food and chicken feed as a preventative. We also put D/E on the ground around our home and in the chicken run where they sleep. We also give them pumpkin seeds, garlic and other foods that naturally kill them. We give them probiotics and other healthy foods during treatment to keep their immune systems strong. We avoid doing it during bad weather and wait for a nice sunny warm stretch. Be sure to not eat the eggs for 14 days. This is the hardest. Throwing away good eggs. While it's rare, worm infestation can occur inside the eggs so it's important to avoid ingesting those. There are natural remedies, but if you take the time to do the research, they are not proven to work and really should only be used as natural preventative in between treatments only. When we get our pigs and cows, we will strictly de-worm every animal every six months as the other local farms in our area does. The resistant issue is a very real concern. Most resistance issues occur with farmer that are de-worming too often. Especially commercial farmers. We see this most often with goats and horses where they are being wormed every two months no matter what. Horses, cows and goats are not omnivores and I would recommend a fecal test be done on them prior to treatment. Animals that eat meat and poop (chickens, pigs, cats, dogs, etc) should be put on a mild preventative plan (unless kept in a strict bio-safe area). Once a year is usually enough.

We have not had any issues since this new program.

Good luck!

 

[furryloo]

I forgot to mention that you will want to do separate waterers/bowls/pans as chickens are territorial and some won't get enough. I put one bowl per three chickens to be sure they are all treated. This is why I go ahead and do the full gallon with two fluid ounces. That's about enough to distribute it.

 

[Knock Kneed Hen]

Hi! I just gave mine a round of Wazine because I thought it would be a good preventive measure. I read all the pros and cons. I preferred having a fecal done, but can't find a vet that will do the fecal without doing an exam and then a fecal on that one chicken. I didn't see any sign of worm infestation after the first round of Wazine so I'm not going to do a follow up treatment. I clean my coop daily and I don't free range (but I had been and that's why I went ahead and did it).

I have read through many threads to find the answer to this question (which was asked in the threads but never answered): I know that we can't eat the eggs, BUT can we feed them back to the chickens? I hate to throw away so many beautiful eggs. Thanks

 

[dawg53]

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You dont want to feed them back to the chickens because it's possible you'd be extending the withdrawal period. You can feed them to your dog(s) if you wish. (If you have dogs.)