Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[kaybee123]

Lol

 

[ozexpat]

Doug,

Is this what the vet said it was?

Mycoplasma gallisepticum-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycoplasma_gallisepticum

http://poultrykeeper.com/respiratory-problems/mycoplasma

It says "Infection from other carrier birds (from their respiratory dischages), including wild birds. Through hatching eggs. From infected dust / bedding material. Chickens and Turkeys can cross infect one another."

I guess the chicks you hatch can bring it with them, from the hen that laid the egg.

his symptoms are not congruent with the illness. i doubt it is that as his vet is treating with sulfonamides and CRD is not susceptible to that class of drugs.

 

[ozexpat]

glad you got to the egg first!!!

 

[Doug Hodges]

I will make a decision tomorrow when I get the findings from the state lab.

Thanks everyone. It really sucks to work so hard raising them to just lose them to an unknown disease. I feel helpless. I have 30 eggs from my hens to sit and I'm thinking about just throwing them out. I can't eat them because I've been medicating all of them.

 

[chicksooner]

I will make a decision tomorrow when I get the findings from the state lab.

Thanks everyone. It really sucks to work so hard raising them to just lose them to an unknown disease. I feel helpless. I have 30 eggs from my hens to sit and I'm thinking about just throwing them out. I can't eat them because I've been medicating all of them.

I wouldn't incubate them either. Not if everyone is getting medicated.

 

[sumi]

Quote: I apologise for the confusion. I said that wrong. Corid will treat most cases, whereas Sulmet is only effective on 2 types. Some strains of the cocci may be resistant to the amprolium and if that is the case you should follow up with sulfadimethoxine. You should, however start treating with Corid first, as sulfa drugs may aggravate the problem. Here is some very interesting information I found:

http://thecozynest.com/understanding_coccidiosis.htm

https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/778478/sick-chicks-post-2

 

[sumi]

I will make a decision tomorrow when I get the findings from the state lab.

Thanks everyone. It really sucks to work so hard raising them to just lose them to an unknown disease. I feel helpless. I have 30 eggs from my hens to sit and I'm thinking about just throwing them out. I can't eat them because I've been medicating all of them.

Some people say you can eat the eggs after treating with Corid, others say wait a week after stopping treatment. To be on the safe side I'd say wait a week and do not incubate them.

On cleaning the brooders: I found a post by Dawg53, he recommends cleaning it with ammonia, not bleach.

 

[ozexpat]

Some people say you can eat the eggs after treating with Corid, others say wait a week after stopping treatment. To be on the safe side I'd say wait a week and do not incubate them.

On cleaning the brooders: I found a post by Dawg53, he recommends cleaning it with ammonia, not bleach.

I would normally incubate any egg held for human consumption because of medication or vaccination but not with an unknown active disease.

Ammonia is not registered as a disinfectant by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Although ammonia might kill salmonella and E. coli, it is not an effective defense against dangerous staphylococcus bacteria.

Bleach is a highly effective disinfectant. It kills some of the most dangerous bacteria, including staphylococcus, streptococcus, E. coli and salmonella – as well as viruses like the flu and the common cold.

Also NEVER mix bleach and ammonia - the gasses will kill you.

 

[sumi]

Quote: I'm cautious when it comes to incubating eggs after medicating. Certain dewormers, for example, has a disastrous effect on the developing embryo, causing death and serious handicaps. I've haven't been able to find much details on it yet and it's not an experiment I'm willing to do myself, so I'd say play it safe and toss the eggs.

I'm referring to cocci, sorry, should've said that. Ammonia is better than bleach for cleaning brooders after an cocci outbreak.

 

[ozexpat]

I'm cautious when it comes to incubating eggs after medicating. Certain dewormers, for example, has a disastrous effect on the developing embryo, causing death and serious handicaps. I've haven't been able to find much details on it yet and it's not an experiment I'm willing to do myself, so I'd say play it safe and toss the eggs.

I'm referring to cocci, sorry, should've said that. Ammonia is better than bleach for cleaning brooders after an cocci outbreak.

I agree with you Sumi.There are many articles on the web that validate Ammonia to kill cocci and discount bleach's effectiveness.

i am so eager to see the results of the necrotopsy of the chicks to see what this is. If it turns out to be cocci - Doug may have another whole round of sanitizing to do.