Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[tracyjg]

I have 4 boys and lots of pets.and we have a lot of similar issues with incubators and shipping.

 

[RubyNala97]

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Thank you! I should have asked for overnight shipping. I paid for 2-3 day priority but the postal service lost my package, so it was delayed and in transit for 4 days. An already long trip from FL to NY became much longer. I've never had this problem in the past but will always pay for overnight from now on. Yes, they are developing nicely. Full veining and active embryos. I don't have an automatic turner since I have the Brinsea Eco model. So I'm just hand tilting them, at a 45 degree angle, 3xday. I will re-candle on day 12 and am hoping to have all air cells reattached. I'm thinking of tracing air cells after lockdown, probably day 19, since mine usually hatch on day 20. But I'd like to trace after draw down starts, so I can see if any chicks need assistance. How did you know when the chicks needed help during hatch? I've had successful wrong end pippers hatch with assistance. But wondering what to look for at hatch time with these shipped eggs?


I am not one to rush in and help a chick hatch but with these bad air cells it is oftentimes impossible for a chick to get into the correct position in order to hatch. For example, I had one chick start to pip then it bust out the other side with a claw...I never thought that was even possible. You can slant them so you can see when they pip and time it. If other chicks are hatching and pipping goes on and on or there is some failure to progress in pipping after an initial 12 hours, it is again often due to incorrect positioning. Not one of my wonky aircelled USPS chicks was positioned correctly!! But some did hatch! From memory 50%

Thank you. I respect the hatching process and wait as long as possible before intervening. I've lost most of the eggs with the really bad air cells. Right now, I have 5 that look somewhat normal and 3 that are going down the side of the egg. But all are firm now. Not loose, no more fluid. So I laid them down. I'm hand turning and I really don't like the cartons because I feel like they aren't getting moved enough. Do you think this is a bad idea? Is there any reason to keep them upright in the cartons, if the air cells are solid in place (even though they may not be in the correct place)? I would think being laid down would help them try to get in the correct position??

 

[robgray]

Thank you. I respect the hatching process and wait as long as possible before intervening. I've lost most of the eggs with the really bad air cells. Right now, I have 5 that look somewhat normal and 3 that are going down the side of the egg. But all are firm now. Not loose, no more fluid. So I laid them down. I'm hand turning and I really don't like the cartons because I feel like they aren't getting moved enough. Do you think this is a bad idea? Is there any reason to keep them upright in the cartons, if the air cells are solid in place (even though they may not be in the correct place)? I would think being laid down would help them try to get in the correct position??

Sounds good but make sure you make the eggs air cells so you know where it chick will pipp. Place egg with pip side up. For me the pip was often in the middle of the shell. Good luck!

 

[RubyNala97]

Sounds good but make sure you make the eggs air cells so you know where it chick will pipp. Place egg with pip side up. For me the pip was often in the middle of the shell. Good luck!

Ok I will definitely do that!! They seem to be doing good. Thanks for all your help. I'll let you know how it goes. Lockdown is Monday night.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

hmmmm sitting here staring at the screen for 15 minutes thinking about everyone, and not sure how to say hello or explain my absence.



its so funny, it seems like only yesterday I was watching over my first set of eggs in the bator in panic, wondering if I was doing it all right or ohhhh so wrong! Now its like changing the toilet paper roll! (dont ask me why I use that definition, must be the meds!)

First let me admit, I have been on other internet support groups, not for fowl but for my health. Been a tough year plus for me, the family and I am hoping on the upswing not the downswing. We did indeed have to sell even more of our birds, I saved a trio of my best Brahma, some Legbars, and of course we couldnt break HarmonyAnns heart and get rid of her serama. In fact from her and Daddy having to take care of the flocks she ended up saving enough cash to purchase more serama breeders. Now I need to get better so I can make her more pens in the serama saloon so she can separate them better.

I have in the past several months hatched some more brahma that are looking amazing, hard to believe this is the 4th generation! I have cleaned my first coop last week for the first time in a year all by myself! yes I was in bad shape and it wasnt until this summer that I actually got to go outside and hangout with my kids by the pool and chickens, too many surgeries and too sick to wonder around, I will admit that I am happy to NOT have to do the GROCERY shopping anymore! I hated that and now he does it! My Mom is still coming to do my wash and its funny because she knows I can do it, she doesnt want me to! She is bored now that she retired, and I love her visits almost daily now! she lives less than 200 yards from us!

I dont ship anything because I couldnt keep up the npip so I only ship PA and local pick up. Its not even paying for feed right now, not sure if I will keep the CCL either, we have been eating all the eggs except for HarmonyAnns serama, as she is hatching and selling eggs a plenty. I do have a few of our mixed breed Barred Rock hens that are my project birds, I know stupid to keep them and rid most brahma, but brahma eat and poop alot and for eggs the BR project "crested Barred rock" are great layers of huge eggs and meat birds.

We also have 26 meaties growing out, they are about 19+/- days old. first time for them, so far so good. Got them from Ideal poultry and they sent extras and they all made it. I also ordered some bantam dark cornish to see if we can raise them for meaties, but not sure bantam was the right way to go. oh well I will grow them out and see what happens. We are very lucky to have great friends and one of them gave us a freezer for our garage to keep our meat! What a blessing that was!

Eric wants to try quail again, but I need to research the best tasting. Last time we didnt enjoy the very dark breast meat, or I dont know how to cook it. So I will research them and try some chicks or eggs since I already have the set up and empty. So as u can tell I have the fowl itch back again and heading more to feeding us than selling them! I just wish this AI crap would go away and I dont have that threat to take my flock someday, but we can only practice our best BIOSEC! I dont want to bring anything in or send anything out because of all the states changing importations, its too much to figure out per order and until we NPIP again we are stuck, not that its hard to get, its just a pain I cant do right now.

We are still raising a few English Springer Spaniel pups, HarmonyAnn and Daddy had really stepped up to the plate helping with the litter!

I know most of you have kept in touch via other social groups and know most of this, but I wanted to drop in and send a hello while I am online to search for feeding of these CornishX meaties and we all know where the best place to research is!!! I forget how I am to feed them as they age and I have to look up quail too!

Blessings and Love to all....

 

[RubyNala97]

hmmmm sitting here staring at the screen for 15 minutes thinking about everyone, and not sure how to say hello or explain my absence. its so funny, it seems like only yesterday I was watching over my first set of eggs in the bator in panic, wondering if I was doing it all right or ohhhh so wrong! Now its like changing the toilet paper roll! (dont ask me why I use that definition, must be the meds!) First let me admit, I have been on other internet support groups, not for fowl but for my health. Been a tough year plus for me, the family and I am hoping on the upswing not the downswing. We did indeed have to sell even more of our birds, I saved a trio of my best Brahma, some Legbars, and of course we couldnt break HarmonyAnns heart and get rid of her serama. In fact from her and Daddy having to take care of the flocks she ended up saving enough cash to purchase more serama breeders. Now I need to get better so I can make her more pens in the serama saloon so she can separate them better. I have in the past several months hatched some more brahma that are looking amazing, hard to believe this is the 4th generation! I have cleaned my first coop last week for the first time in a year all by myself! yes I was in bad shape and it wasnt until this summer that I actually got to go outside and hangout with my kids by the pool and chickens, too many surgeries and too sick to wonder around, I will admit that I am happy to NOT have to do the GROCERY shopping anymore! I hated that and now he does it! My Mom is still coming to do my wash and its funny because she knows I can do it, she doesnt want me to! She is bored now that she retired, and I love her visits almost daily now! she lives less than 200 yards from us! I dont ship anything because I couldnt keep up the npip so I only ship PA and local pick up. Its not even paying for feed right now, not sure if I will keep the CCL either, we have been eating all the eggs except for HarmonyAnns serama, as she is hatching and selling eggs a plenty. I do have a few of our mixed breed Barred Rock hens that are my project birds, I know stupid to keep them and rid most brahma, but brahma eat and poop alot and for eggs the BR project "crested Barred rock" are great layers of huge eggs and meat birds. We also have 26 meaties growing out, they are about 19+/- days old. first time for them, so far so good. Got them from Ideal poultry and they sent extras and they all made it. I also ordered some bantam dark cornish to see if we can raise them for meaties, but not sure bantam was the right way to go. oh well I will grow them out and see what happens. We are very lucky to have great friends and one of them gave us a freezer for our garage to keep our meat! What a blessing that was! Eric wants to try quail again, but I need to research the best tasting. Last time we didnt enjoy the very dark breast meat, or I dont know how to cook it. So I will research them and try some chicks or eggs since I already have the set up and empty. So as u can tell I have the fowl itch back again and heading more to feeding us than selling them! I just wish this AI crap would go away and I dont have that threat to take my flock someday, but we can only practice our best BIOSEC! I dont want to bring anything in or send anything out because of all the states changing importations, its too much to figure out per order and until we NPIP again we are stuck, not that its hard to get, its just a pain I cant do right now. We are still raising a few English Springer Spaniel pups, HarmonyAnn and Daddy had really stepped up to the plate helping with the litter! I know most of you have kept in touch via other social groups and know most of this, but I wanted to drop in and send a hello while I am online to search for feeding of these CornishX meaties and we all know where the best place to research is!!! I forget how I am to feed them as they age and I have to look up quail too! Blessings and Love to all....

Sally, we don't know each other and I didn't even know you were sick. I'm sorry to hear that! Sounds like you have a wonderful family supporting you and that things are starting to look up. I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank you for all of your wonderful information that you've shared on BYC. I've read the "assisting hatch guide" several times and still refer back to it when a new challenge pops up. All of your articles, pictures, and links have taught me so so much!! So thank you and I hope you continue to gain strength and get well!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

RubyNala97 Thank you and your very welcome! Its so wonderful to know that the research is being used by others and still helping out!

 

[chicapee]

Sally, we don't know each other and I didn't even know you were sick. I'm sorry to hear that! Sounds like you have a wonderful family supporting you and that things are starting to look up. I just wanted to take this opportunity to thank you for all of your wonderful information that you've shared on BYC. I've read the "assisting hatch guide" several times and still refer back to it when a new challenge pops up. All of your articles, pictures, and links have taught me so so much!! So thank you and I hope you continue to gain strength and get well!

X's 2, Sorry you have been poorly. You are a great asset to the forum. Thank you for the info.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

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[Sally Sunshine]

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