Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[Sally Sunshine]

https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/hatching-eggs-101

What Went Wrong During Incubation

Eggtopsy: What happened to my egg?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/363717/eggtopsy-what-happened-to-my-egg-graphic-pictures

Eggtopsy IMGAGES What went Wrong?
http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/1646/investigating-hatchery-practice-interpretation-of-quality-control-test-results

"Shrink wrap" vs. "Sticky chick"?
https://www.backyardchickens.com/t/491421/shrink-wrap-vs-sticky-chick#post_6242987

Hatchability Problem analysis.pdf1,708k .pdf file

http://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00008570/00001

Trouble Shooting Failures with Egg Incubation http://msucares.com/poultry/reproductions/trouble.html

Hatchability Problem Analysis
http://www.natureform.com/kb/index.php?print=1011

Troubleshootting Incubation
http://www.poultry.msstate.edu/extension/pdf/troubleshooting_incubation.pdf
http://anrcatalog.ucdavis.edu/pdf/8127.pdf

This is also a great pdf with pics: paste link in browser search:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=early%20emrbyo%20death%20%20incubation&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&ved=0CDsQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thepoultrysite.com%2Fdownloads%2Fdownload%2F171%2F&ei=UllaUMXFHsmrygGnjoHICw&usg=AFQjCNGgYxCBYwBex31MS5w2McdnpH1zbw

ALSO this PDF at the last pages have a chart that shows what could have happened.... http://gallus.tamu.edu/library/extpublications/b6092.pdf​

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LOL Sumi, these are the ones we have been adding as we go! they are ready to copy paste from the 101 article I noted a link dont work, need to fix that

 

[sumi]

Well most of mine died through the night but I did notice they weren't in the right position for hatching. They all tried to pip in the middle of the shell. So what do u think could have been the cause of this?? Still have 5 that are alive with the beaks out at breathing. Hopefully one will pull through but it's not looking to good.

There are a few factors that can cause this problem. Most of the time it's because the eggs were set incorrectly in the incubator, i.e. pointy end of the egg is up or slightly higher than the fat end.

Another factor is inadequate turning of the eggs during incubation. Frequent turning of the eggs helps the embryo position itself correctly and during the last 3 days the eggs should not be turned at all as this is when the chick gets into position to hatch and pip in the air sac at the beginning of the hatching process.

And another factor causing malpositioned chicks/embryos is inadequate moisture loss of the egg during incubation. Eggs should lose between 11% and 14% of their weigh during the incubation process. Too high humidity causes the egg to lose too little moisture resulting in an air sac that is too small and a chick that is too big to manoeuvre itself round the egg in order to pip, zip and hatch.

Also, to a lesser extend the age of the hatching eggs. Eggs aged 2-3 weeks before setting tends to produce more malpositioned chicks. As does the age of the hens laying the egg. Older hen's eggs produce more malpositioned chicks.

Good luck with the remaining chicks and don't give up just yet, O.K? Where there is life, there is hope!

 

[Chick_In_The_Burbs]

One weekend, 243 posts to catch up on. This may take a while...

 

[Sally Sunshine]

One weekend, 243 posts to catch up on. This may take a while...

 

[sumi]

LOL I cheated. I swear you guys wait 'till I'm offline and let rip. I often log in the mornings and find 5 pages of unread posts here!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

we are friends, we chat! LOL

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

Quote: Collard greens, kale, any and all DARK greens (NO SPINACH) Finely chopped offered a few times a day floated on water until you can have them outside grazing on their own. You can also srpout whole wheat for them to graze from while stuck with snow and or winter dead grass.

Newly hatched to 3-4 weeks old food and water available 24/7
4 weeks old and above, food and water taken away at night is FINE and lessens the mess they will make and allows you to wake to clean brooder rather than a mess to clean first thing.
Waterfowl require less heat than chickens so watch them for signs it is too hot in the brooder and adjust as needed. Just like chickens they willdog pile if too cold and move as far away from the heat lamp if too hot. We use over heat infared heaters they can come and go out from under as needed. No light, no fire hazard.

Geese and ducklings dont sleep all night like chickens so it is normal to have them playing at 2 am lol

Quote: Our geese get grain once a day every day. Whole oats, whole wheat and either maintenance or layer waterfowl feed by Mazuri

90% of their diet is from grazing, which we are lucky to have grass year round and thus we dont have to suppliment with hay and other dark greens over the winter.

Quote: geese eat more than grass, 90% of the diet is from grazing, however most yards today dont have a good enough mix of greens to graze so we as owners have to suppliment.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

wondering why no spinach?

 

[ozexpat]

90% of their diet is from grazing, which we are lucky to have grass year round and thus we dont have to suppliment with hay and other dark greens over the winter.

geese eat more than grass, 90% of the diet is from grazing, however most yards today dont have a good enough mix of greens to graze so we as owners have to suppliment.

let me stand corrected. grasses.


the geese l owned had the luxury of true free ranging with a 40 acre oat sown field in front of the yard

we did not need to supplement additionally

 

[CelticOaksFarm]

Quote: Thats a huge difference of farm land verse neighborhoods or developed land. Are you the one I read about traveing the globe with hatching eggs?

wondering why no spinach?

It is actually a calcium inhibitor and should be fed in very small amounts or not at all. Plenty other choices, ever carrot greens and dandelion greens.