She waited to ship them until it was above freezing, so I don't think so. I was really looking forward to the possilbity of a sebastopol goose. They are so beautiful and seem very friendly. I still have hopes, but they really don't promising....
Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching
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NYeve Ancona Duckies update!! HUGENESS! I am putting a chicken/duck page together instead of posting here.....
I will share our first 38 days together!
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Hellooo!
First pip on my shipped Silkie eggs!!! Day 20....Buff Silkie. Nervous and excited.
Heard some peeping! How long can / will it stay pipped like this? This egg has a huge funky air sack...chick pipped just above the line.First pip on my shipped Silkie eggs!!! Day 20....Buff Silkie. Nervous and excited.
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Quote:It can be pipped for a day...... here is a read to calm those nerves
https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/hatching-eggs-101
The initiation of hatch occurs partially from the increased carbon dioxide level in the egg. This process causes the embryo to begin twitching it's muscles allowing the inner shell membrane to be punctured by the egg tooth. The chick then begins breathing the air in the air cell. Using its egg tooth, it pecks at the shell thousands of times and after a few hours the chick pips a small hole through the shell and begins to breathe air directly from the outside. After the chick has made a hole in the shell, it stops pipping for 8+ hours sometimes up to 24 hours and rests.
During this time, it is acclimating its lungs.
After the resting stage is completed the second stage of pipping begins. The chick begins to turn slowly inside the egg. As the chick turns counter-clockwise it uses the cutting edge of the chick tooth to chip away. As the chick progresses in its movement around the shell, it begins pushing on the large air cell end of the egg. Squirming and struggling! YES STRUGGLING! The chick works feverishly pushing at the cap. Finally with a shove the chick breaks free from the shell wet and exhausted. When the chick is freed completely from the shell it lies still. Its energy has been virtually exhausted, and it is extremely tired. After resting the chick begins to gain more and more energy and coordination of its muscles.
In regards to opening and closing the bator to remove already hatch chicks; It is important to remember that chicks can go 3 days without food/water. It is better to wait for the remaining chicks to hatch to insure reducing the impact to unhatched pipping eggs.
But my new chick is running around in the bator knocking eggs around!
LET THEM GO! DO NOT OPEN THE INCUBATOR! They are fine!
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oh I forgot this one is also a great read!! https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/step-by-step-guide-to-assisted-hatching
BREATHE!
That’s right, take a deep breath, calm your nerves and RELAX!
There is no rush to get a chick out of the shell!
"The developing embryo has lived in this shell for well over 3 weeks.
It has survived off of the contents of the egg for that entire time. The only thing it has absorbed from the outside is Oxygen. As long as the chick is getting Oxygen, there is nothing urgent. Too many people feel the need to rush in and pull a chick out of a place that has served it well for 3-4 weeks. There should be no rush to get a chick out of the shell if it can breathe. As long as it has access to air through the pip, it can sit there all day, even after the blood vessels recede. It's not going to starve. It has plenty of yolk. It's not going to dehydrate, unless you get impatient and begin removing shell before it's time to do so causing bleeding or too much exposure to outside air." http://www.avianresources.com/Nursery_Mgt.htm
That’s right, take a deep breath, calm your nerves and RELAX!
There is no rush to get a chick out of the shell!
"The developing embryo has lived in this shell for well over 3 weeks.
It has survived off of the contents of the egg for that entire time. The only thing it has absorbed from the outside is Oxygen. As long as the chick is getting Oxygen, there is nothing urgent. Too many people feel the need to rush in and pull a chick out of a place that has served it well for 3-4 weeks. There should be no rush to get a chick out of the shell if it can breathe. As long as it has access to air through the pip, it can sit there all day, even after the blood vessels recede. It's not going to starve. It has plenty of yolk. It's not going to dehydrate, unless you get impatient and begin removing shell before it's time to do so causing bleeding or too much exposure to outside air." http://www.avianresources.com/Nursery_Mgt.htm
Sally and sumi,
Just wondering how you hatch? Do you use cartons or just lay the eggs on their sides for lockdown and hatch?
I used cartons this time for the first time this last week and it seemed they pipped and zipped great but when they tried to push themselves out of the bottom 2/3 of the shell they ended up hanging over the shell! Any advice on this? I loved the fact that they didn't play soccer with each other like my previous hatches
Just wondering how you hatch? Do you use cartons or just lay the eggs on their sides for lockdown and hatch?
I used cartons this time for the first time this last week and it seemed they pipped and zipped great but when they tried to push themselves out of the bottom 2/3 of the shell they ended up hanging over the shell! Any advice on this? I loved the fact that they didn't play soccer with each other like my previous hatches
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I have finally figured out that when it comes to lockdown day 18 I never really have bad air cells anymore just awkward ones, saddle shaped and such, so I lay with the "probable" pip area up, the egg will naturally roll that position. its the lower dip in the air cell see pic on left?? By this time they should have stablized if they are still alive at this point and the no turning from day 18 on so it cant hurt them and after reading so many case studies for commercial hatcheries I am a firm believer in what I wrote below in the https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/hatching-eggs-101 article
See how that air cell is beginning to dip more to one side? This is a natural occurrence to help aid in the hatching process. If you lay the egg down on a flat surface it will roll itself into the correct position for hatching with the greatest part of the air cell up. I now mark the upward side of the egg so I know how it should remain for hatching. This is the best position for hatching so that the chick is able to turn into hatching position. See images below….
Day 18 laying horizontal for actual hatching helps a chick hatch 1-2 hours earlier.
The hatching position, with each egg lying on its side, is commonly accepted as the most conductive to efficient hatching, and the freedom of the egg to shift or roll at least to some slight degree appears to contribute to the ease and facility with which the chicks may fracture the shell by pecking to emerge from.
Day 18 laying horizontal for actual hatching helps a chick hatch 1-2 hours earlier.
The hatching position, with each egg lying on its side, is commonly accepted as the most conductive to efficient hatching, and the freedom of the egg to shift or roll at least to some slight degree appears to contribute to the ease and facility with which the chicks may fracture the shell by pecking to emerge from.
So you lay them on their sides? I figure the same thing with the dip in air cell and I just worry abou the other chicks that have already hatched pushing the eggs around to the wrong positionI have finally figured out that when it comes to lockdown day 18 I never really have bad air cells anymore just awkward ones, saddle shaped and such, so I lay with the "probable" pip area up, the egg will naturally roll that position. its the lower dip in the air cell see pic on left?? By this time they should have stablized if they are still alive at this point and the no turning from day 18 on so it cant hurt them and after reading so many case studies for commercial hatcheries I am a firm believer in what I wrote below in the https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/hatching-eggs-101 article[SIZE=14pt]See how that air cell is beginning to dip more to one side? This is a natural occurrence to help aid in the hatching process. If you lay the egg down on a flat surface it will roll itself into the correct position for hatching with the greatest part of the air cell up. I now mark the upward side of the egg so I know how it should remain for hatching. This is the best position for hatching so that the chick is able to turn into hatching position. See images below….[/SIZE]Day 18 laying horizontal for actual hatching helps a chick hatch 1-2 hours earlier.[SIZE=14pt]The hatching position, with each egg lying on its side, is commonly accepted as the most conductive to efficient hatching, and the freedom of the egg to shift or roll at least to some slight degree appears to contribute to the ease and facility with which the chicks may fracture the shell by pecking to emerge from.[/SIZE]
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