Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[Chickengirl1304]

Six chicks hatched so far.  The egg that started zipping last night is gone.  When I went to see if it needed help I found it was stuck to the cheesecloth.  Not sure if it was fluid from the egg hatching or hatching gunk from another chick but that egg was glued in place.t looked like even though the chick was zipping it never managed to break the membrane and breath.  :/   It was rotating and popping off pieces of shell without breaking through.  

I have one more pip right now that looks good and the rest are just sitting there.  The siblings kicked them around really well, everyone ended up on the same side of the incubator.  Going to candle some in a few.

Have you been opening the incubator while you have pips? That may be why the one that zipped got too sticky and dry and couldn't break through. Don't open it or the cool, dry air will come in and shrink wrap the babies

 

[Chickengirl1304]

FINAL COUNT ~ 4 splash, 1 black, 1 blue Amercauna & 1 Infertile, 4 malposition (1 splash saved after pipping wrong end, others died in shell because they couldnt pip through wrong eng, she is drying off below) and 2 black cochin in this brooder with some of them.... uPDATE ON BUBBA black cochin.... STARTING TO WALK BETTER, only found twice on his side today, but its been a loooooong night again!

Poor thing eek! Maybe as he gets stronger he will get better I know how you feel, the incubators are in my room because it has the most stable temp and boy those babies are loud!!' Ahhhh lol

 

[Chick_In_The_Burbs]

Have you been opening the incubator while you have pips? That may be why the one that zipped got too sticky and dry and couldn't break through. Don't open it or the cool, dry air will come in and shrink wrap the babies

I had one fast fix to get the thermometer in there early on day 19 but the humidity/temp readings barely shifted from that and were normal again within 10 minutes. And then last night to save the shrink wrapped babies. DS is asleep so I am going to go look in on them again. My humidity skyrocketed this morning after a chick knocked over the shot glass of water. It's sitting 80% last I looked.

 

[chicksooner]

Sally you are one awesome lady!

I have been thinking about turning shipped eggs. I am getting some in a couple weeks and your malpositioned ones got me really thinking. Do you have to turn an egg and actually leave it in that position for a while? I know when I candle and turn the egg the yolk rolls slowly around. What do you think about turning to allow the yolk to roll and then returning the egg to the upright position in a carton or unplugged turner. I have just been thinking on my incubating strategy for the next round.

 

[ozexpat]

I had one fast fix to get the thermometer in there early on day 19 but the humidity/temp readings barely shifted from that and were normal again within 10 minutes. And then last night to save the shrink wrapped babies. DS is asleep so I am going to go look in on them again. My humidity skyrocketed this morning after a chick knocked over the shot glass of water. It's sitting 80% last I looked.

I prefer 80% for lockdown. You cant drown them if they were dry hatched and the higher humidity protects them from me if I have to intervene.

When I hatched in the Philippines, ambient humidity was 84%. It made it easy to open the bator.

 

[Chick_In_The_Burbs]

And seven chicks.

Whats really confusing me is that some chicks are perfectly fine, no issues at all while others... I am just not going to mess with the rest until tonight. I let a fair few go into lockdown that were iffy to begin with but I think messing with it will only cause more harm right now.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Sally you are one awesome lady!

I have been thinking about turning shipped eggs. I am getting some in a couple weeks and your malpositioned ones got me really thinking. Do you have to turn an egg and actually leave it in that position for a while? I know when I candle and turn the egg the yolk rolls slowly around. What do you think about turning to allow the yolk to roll and then returning the egg to the upright position in a carton or unplugged turner. I have just been thinking on my incubating strategy for the next round.

hmmmmmm

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Sally you are one awesome lady!

I have been thinking about turning shipped eggs. I am getting some in a couple weeks and your malpositioned ones got me really thinking. Do you have to turn an egg and actually leave it in that position for a while? I know when I candle and turn the egg the yolk rolls slowly around. What do you think about turning to allow the yolk to roll and then returning the egg to the upright position in a carton or unplugged turner. I have just been thinking on my incubating strategy for the next round.

A Critical Period for the Turning of Hens' Eggs
http://dev.biologists.org/content/5/3/293.full.pdf
During incubation we try to mimic the natural conditions in the nest. Egg turning prevents adhesion of the embryo to the inner shell membrane. It stimulates the rate of development of the area vasculosa (the membrane which grows around the yolk and is rich in blood vessels). The area vasculosa is important for sub-embryonic fluid formation, as well as for yolk uptake later in incubation. It allows normal transfer of albumen proteins into the amniotic fluid, promoting optimum use of the albumen. It supports the growth of the chorio-allantois (the blood vessels right under the shell) to maximize oxygen absorption. Embryos in unturned eggs grow at a lower rate compared to embryos in eggs turned each hour over 90˚. It facilitates movements of the embryo into the normal hatching position and reduces the incidence of malpositions in unhatched embryos.​

 

[Chick_In_The_Burbs]

A thought, is it possible to have uneven humidity in the incubator with forced air? All the eggs with problems were on the left side and the strongest incubated directly over a water well, right side.

?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

When I get shipped eggs I will run my humidity a tad higher when I have air cells like this. they seemed fine and then as they grew so did the oddness and that saddle shape has to effect movement in there... I wish I understood how they turn in the shell and their movements then I could get more a grasp on it.....

OZ food for thought and thinking and research because I just cant do it right now, thinking is distorted by whatever is wrong with me