Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[MommaBee]

i agree. i would open the membrane just above the shell line where there are no veins,

then nibble down the shell another quarter inch.

Ok I'm on my phone and can't quote everyone...

Sally: super active until the last hour. Thats how it got here in the first place! it pipped a giant hole instead of a zip! and the horror movie line was straight out of my husbands mouth as well! Why do I feel like there is MORE fluid and it looks like its drownding?

Sooner: I appreciate all advice!! I know I can see more but that pic pretty much sums it up. The blood spots are not external.... Hmmm

Oz: when you say membrane. Are you talking inner or outter? I am guess inner because the white outter membrane is not their at all really except under the shell part. I though you weren't suppose to touch the inner one?

 

[MommaBee]

Ummm it was clearly foaming at the mouth. Took it out, used a q-tip to absorb it so it could breathe better! This does not look good friends!! I see veins the more I pull off the shell. I will try to kick DH off the computer and upload the most recent pic! In the meantime someone bring a cold stiff drink to Texas! I might be a cowgirl at heart but this operation crap is for the birds!!

 

[MommaBee]

Best I can do, pic wise.
So the ointment makes everything look wet, but there was a lot of foam around the chicks beak I cleaned it all off before taking the pic. Those blood veins are tiny but they look like they might be bleeding inside. In the top left of the pic is mushy and wet looking like lots of fluid. Is this the yolk? Guys I am seriously about to start drinking!

And can we just say that page 998 of this thread is not looking like a fun one!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Soooo Where was I all day? IT was NOT a fun day!

After bathing clipping and washing 3 of the 5 dogs I

I went out to check on Black Betty , chicks and unhatched eggs.

FOUND an ICE COLD egg in the middle of the floor and the other like soooo...... abandoned on the nest, she was laying in the middle of the floor with her 2 chicks!
BAD BLACK BETTY! BAD BAD BAD!!! LESSON LEARNED, STEAL your broody's good eggs, leave some fakes and then REPLACE WHEN YOU HAVE ENOUGH ALL AT THE SAME TIME!
DO NOT LET MOTHER NATURE TAKE ITS COURSE! MOTHER nature can be cruel for sure! So if you can help mother nature just a tad DO IT!



I grabbed them both after snapping that pic and RAN into the house and quickly ripped that sucker out of the shell while holding her under the warm work lamp.
SO cold in my hands, I have turned/candled enough eggs to know these chicks were in BAD shape. The other egg had no external pip, no noise, so let it under the lamp while
I stimulated the other chick and rubbed her with a towel and tried to get her warm again through heat and stimunlation. she was BLUE and I am not talking blue cochin blue.
poor thing : ( I felt so bad for not taking them from black betty last night! I second guessed myself again! ugggggg


I opened the egg and saw it had internally pipped, but there was absolutely NO movement.
I assumed it was gone. so I kept it under the lamp while I worked on getting the other warm and stimulated.
I let it sit for almost 45 minutes and finally I said, you know what, you may have a chick that has a tad more yolk to absorb,
But you also have a hypothermic chick in there, best way to warm her up is to get her to open from that ball position.
So thinking in the back of my head she is already dead, I took off the membrane with only a tad of blood, I thought because she was dead,
THANK GOD no blood, and helped her head out to open her body up for heat.
I kept her like that for 30. minutes and rubbed her also gently and she started to breath faintly!
I SCREAMED at the top of my lungs for DH to come and tell me I wasn't loosing it!
SHE WAS moving! very little but she was alive! She would move her head occationally!
I WAS AMAZED, so this was not a case of sitting on hands and waiting for me.
This was get them warm and keep them stimulated. so for HOURS I sat with them and rubbed them and talked to them.

This was while I was rubbing the first one......


This is how she looked when I realized she didn't have any yolk yet.
I think the cold stopped the process.....





a few hrs later........



a few more hrs later.....



and she finally is trying to walk around with the other one! she seems to have curled toes and spraddle legs from weakness....
But we can work with that!



and a few moments ago........ certainly not out of the woods yet.



see umbilical now.......



The first one has a case of droopy neck?????? she is very active but see how she hangs her head? she does pick it up but not stand tall with it..... suggestions?




So this is where my day lead me........ ugggggg

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Best I can do, pic wise.
So the ointment makes everything look wet, but there was a lot of foam around the chicks beak I cleaned it all off before taking the pic. Those blood veins are tiny but they look like they might be bleeding inside. In the top left of the pic is mushy and wet looking like lots of fluid. Is this the yolk? Guys I am seriously about to start drinking!

And can we just say that page 998 of this thread is not looking like a fun one!

you know this chick may have its own issues, is its beak aways open like that? I would go ahead and take that membrane off, see on that pic the upper left hand corner around 10 pm? what is that looks gel like is that on the inside of the egg? you need to open that and try to guide his head out and you can look down at his belly with a flash light and see if you can see and unabsorbed yolk, if you do put the egg in a cup so his head is up, I use paper towels to keep the head up and resting..... something is not right about this chick.

 

[MommaBee]

Sally come drink with me! You deserve it! ummm chick is foaming at the mouth again. I see bubbles inside the membrane!!!! I think I have run out of options unless I want to keep swabbing its mouth every 15 mins.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

something is wrong with it, look at above post

 

[pogmobum]

Could the droopy neck be a vitamin deficiency, like when they do the head thrown back falling over thing? other then that i don't know, glad they made it

 

[Sally Sunshine]

What I don't like is everytime I read foaming at the mouth we have a ruptured yolk sack, if you see yellow greenish orangish goop you may need to get him out of the shell and tie the cord off with betadine dipped dental floss.

 

[MommaBee]

Sally I read that right after you posted it! I think you are right. Very very wrong. What do I do? I tried to free it's head and found it's foot on top of the head. Nothing about this feels right.