Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[silver1313]

Hey Sally I got a question, if one were to switch to FF would it hurt if you still use ACV in the water as well ?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

sally, if this works, thank you, maybe YOU can teach an old dog new tricks

DOGS ROCK dude!!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Hey Sally I got a question, if one were to switch to FF would it hurt if you still use ACV in the water as well ?

your only using acv to start up your process, I use acv in my waterers when it gets warm so they don't stink ickyness.


which reminds me, I still didn't find out about that warmth and plastic waterer stuff cancer stuff yet!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

OK Quick update. I checked and opened all the eggs earlier. I had two live chicks. I laid them on paper towels. I cant tell one from any of the others now because its doing fine. They both had yolk sacks showing but quickly absorbed them.. but one was almost dead and is very very very weak. I mixed up some sav a chick and have been feeding it about every hour or so with a dropper. I think its getting stronger Its kicking its legs but cant even move its head up yet unless Im holding it. It seems to be liking the dropper but it so close to death that I expect it to be gone each time I go out to check on it. Since I started, Im not giving up until its gone or it llves. I have it in its own box. Its peeping a lot.

I have been successful with several that have died in prior hatches on this hatch. I probably have saved 5 to 7 chicks so far and possibly two turkeys. The first 6 hatched very easily but the last dozen have all been assisted. I lost count of how many I have assisted and how many have lived. Its day three of the hatch. The bator is clean and waiting. I have two clean bators.

On another note, I candled the eggs that spiked and I think I see a lot of veining and some with globs. What do they look like on day 4?

Wow Doug, that is way too many! something isn't right, not right at all. are you saying they are not pipping internally? in what way do they need assisted? malpositioned?

 

[silver1313]

Quote: I didnt find anything personally but im a slow researcher !!! and ok .. i just wondered .. thinking about trying it on a smaller scale first and wondered about that since I do use ACV in the water ...

 

[sharron]

DOGS ROCK dude!!

thank you sally, after all the reading i did trying to put how to into my brain, you did it in seconds with the pics. i think tho, you might have created a monster

 

[Sally Sunshine]

I am going to keep posting these until I find answers!

I keep running into the issue of Meal Worms and Mareks!

http://extension.unh.edu/resources/files/Resource000791_Rep813.pdf

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[FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Marek’s is highly contagious and spreads by bird-to-bird contact, by contact with infected dust and dander, and by darkling beetles and mealworms that live in the chicken house, although the virus has no affect on the beetles or mealworms. [/FONT][/FONT]

Meal Worms may carry Mareks disease and a bunch of other unwanted guests, (still trying to figure out mealworm types, not an easy lookup)
Chickens can also be exposed to Mareks virus by direct contact with ill or carrier chickens - which includes almost all chickens. Wild pheasant, quail and turkeys can pass the disease to free range chickens. One other route of infection is through meal worms, (which many small flock owners feed) and the darkling beetles that are the adult mealworm form. The mealworms do not become sick from Mareks.http://www.examiner.com/article/how...mareks-disease-michigans-small-chicken-flocks


Darkling beetles or lesser mealworms (Alphitobius diaperinus)Disease transmission

Darkling beetles are known vectors and reservoirs for a number of serious poultry disease agents
(leucosis, Marek’s disease, infectious bursal disease, reovirus, enterovirus, fowl pox and Newcastle
disease) and can act as intermediate hosts for caecal nematodes, tapeworms and protozoa. In addition,
they can transmit a number of food-borne diseases such as Escherichia coli and Salmonella typhimurium,
and have been recently implicated in the transmission of Campylobacter. http://www.poultryhub.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Darkling_Beetles_web.pd​

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: AWESOME!! you do know that.......

 

[Toast n Jelly]

Quote: I have one just like this. Its 3 days old now. I think its getting better.
Wonderful!

 

[ozexpat]

You know the cancer risks from heated plastic water bottles? well our ckn waterers get warm and even hot in the summer, can the toxins stay in chicken carcass and even their eggs?

mealworms sound like disgusting little creatures.

All these people buying them too. I am glad I dont have that issue.