Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[Wax Myrtle]

Sally, ikwym, it sounds like NPIP laws vary as much from state to state as homeschooling laws do. Maybe give some thought to looking into what may be done to amend the laws to allow more flexibility for flocks of less than 250 say... I'd guess that writing to your state senators, reps and governor would be a start?

 

[chicksooner]

I am still messaging the state, separate brooder room, separate hatching room, separate storage room andddddddddddddddddd WAIT I said I was backyard flock owner no???

they are willing to work with me because those are simply guidelines. Wonder if they tell that to the inspector???? lol I don't think this will happen sumi

This sounds like some of the Hatchery Guidelines for our NPIP. Unless you have a big commercial type incubator you won't qualify for hatchery. At least that is what my tester explained. Maybe you need to actually talk to a tester rather than an office person.

Here is the kicker for this whole shizzzzzz .... IF at anytime you have these diseases, they will quarantine and then re-test. IF however you are deemed biohazard its out of your pocket to pay for the Biohazard disposal of birds, coops, equipment and even excavating of grounds. I just got the email back in response to that one.... "[FONT=Calibri,sans-serif]If certain diseases, such as AI wipe you out, there may be some indemnity funds from USDA available. But yes, farming is a risky business for sure.[/FONT]"

Weighing this........ thoughts for a backyard flock owner?

Interesting. Sounds like they are trying to make it hard for backyard flock owners to be NPIP. Like they directing their rules more for large scale poultry farms.

 

[Ms Steak]

I agree Ms Steak, sometimes they show no reasons, she could have gotten a pc of shavings stuck in her throat or something, sometimes stuff just happens. Sometimes they have issues inside that we never get to see. soo sorry

Thanks Sally. I haven`t even been brave enough to put down shavings yet in case they ate them. I was planning that for the next few days. I am using puppy pads right now.

 

[Doug Hodges]

I can't get byc to work on my computer. Keeps saying long running script. I'm on my phone with no issues.

 

[Doug Hodges]

Check this out. This is from chooks4life on the Milk flush for coccidiosis thread.

I would just buy cheap garlic, around $1.50 p/kg, which equates to a lot of garlic bulbs/corms. (People say bulbs these days but they used to be called corms). At a pinch I've used granulated dried raw garlic, and if you must substitute fresh raw garlic, I'd guess the stuff in a jar is also of some use. I don't know, I haven't used that, but generally any garlic is better than none because some of the active ingredients can't be cooked or processed out of it by standard means. However for active virus protection raw and fresh is best.

The main known antibiotic property, Allicin, is created by the reaction of the enzymes released after crushing or cutting the garlic, and dissipates in around 12 or less hours. Less in my experience but it would depend on the breed of garlic too. The more ancient and non-commercialized the breed, the more potent, but even the cheap stuff works for me. Garlic is also high in sulfur which makes a chicken's flesh and blood parasite deterring, once it's been on regular garlic for a while to infuse all its tissues. Works for internal and external parasites and other nasties like bad bacteria. The Allicin in garlic has been used to treat humans with food poisoning that does not react to even very strong pharmaceutical antibiotics and because the enzyme reaction is unique it prevents viral adaption and enables garlic to kill viruses and bacteria that man made antibiotics and antiviral drugs can't touch.

Since I mixed their grain with fluid to bind kelp powder into it I would just throw the garlic into that once minced. Kelp's another thing I would strongly recommend. It's contains all the vitamins and minerals in the correct balance and is a powerful endocrine regulator. It restores correct coloration to feathers/eyes/legs/beak/skin etc, and also instinct, but not in a spacky way; rather they become very intelligent but so peaceful in their interactions. I used to feed whatever I could afford that wasn't layer pellets or crumble or mash, since once you crack a grain the nutritional value depletes severely and progressively. Just cracked is fine. After 30 minutes, an hour, a day, there are shockingly large measurable increments of degradation, so the animals eat more to make up for it. Anyway I'd give coarse grain which has corn, red sorghum, black suflower seeds, and barley or wheat, also stuff like copra meal, millet, bran, whatever I thought they could do with. Raw milk from cows or goats is great, I never had any problems with it even though I would give them as much as they could consume. Apple cider vinegar is great too. My feed wasn't the best but was what I could afford after making allowances for what I considered very important staples (kelp and garlic) which retrospect has shown me were definitely the most important.

Sort of off-topic, last year I caught a virus that had been killing people in their prime rather than old folks and babies as is expected; it got a lot of news coverage. It was a mix of a virus and a bacteria and fungal infection working in cohesion. I had a fever for two days and was a skeleton when I emerged. I was left with a lung problem I knew would kill me if I didn't fix it... I don't look after myself the way I look after my animals, lol! I've had pleurisy before so I've got an idea what's a serious warning sign. Anyway it was making pockets of trapped air in my lungs and getting stronger even though the virus itself had run through, and nothing was coming out, so after a day or two I just chopped a single clove of raw garlic and swallowed it with water. The lung infection died within about 15 minutes, and I've been fine since. Other people died in hospital with the same thing, usually in comas they never emerged from. I am sure raw garlic could also have saved some or possibly all of them. If there's one thing you take a chance on, please try raw garlic for infections, especially viral ones; I'm not saying don't go to hospital, I'm just saying it's more powerful than many people know. A lot of doctors are waking up to its potential now

 

[Sally Sunshine]

LOL I was looking at my list and its funny how the ones we are attached to have names and always have faults!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Quote: unfortunately I am talking with no office person, I am speaking with the Dr. herself. she is very very kind mind you, its just when I read the above stuff and I can get past some of the stuff, and she said she is willing to work with us, but I cannot get beyond the above part now. Why on earth would I put my house and property and well being on the line for a few bucks to pay for my feed and chicken stuff? I am not quite sure on the "probability" part of the above happening, but I don't like to gamble my money I would sooner go to a casino and watch others loose their money and keep my 20 bucks in my pocket. That's just the way I am. Does this make sense?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Sally, ikwym, it sounds like NPIP laws vary as much from state to state as homeschooling laws do. Maybe give some thought to looking into what may be done to amend the laws to allow more flexibility for flocks of less than 250 say... I'd guess that writing to your state senators, reps and governor would be a start?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Interesting. Sounds like they are trying to make it hard for backyard flock owners to be NPIP. Like they directing their rules more for large scale poultry farms.

There are 3 separate titles I think? I forget, but I do know if something does go wrong it will fall back to those LEGAL "provisions" you have received. Its a National Plan you would have the same provisions as I.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Doug I thought you said it was not Cocci?