Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[Gardeningmama]

Jumping in here but, I think what some people fail to understand is that there are people on this thread that are devoted to helping others with hatching issues. HOWEVER those same people have answered the same exact questions hundreds if not thousands of times. As nice as a personal detailed note may be, copy & paste is much more logical on a thread like this. The article was written so beautifully and simply that anyone with just about any question will have it answered by reading beginning to end. I have read it over and over again! I am on the hatch-a-long right now and am constantly referring people to it, and think it should be a required reading before embarking on a hatch! You're doing good Sally, let it roll off your back sister!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Back to our normal programming because drama I am not....


Here is one.... question is how do I get in to read its full text? I assume I need to pay the fees



http://ps.fass.org/content/41/5/1478.abstract

abstract

WARMING of hatching eggs prior to the regular incubation period resulted in improvement in the hatchability of chicken and turkey eggs

 

[Sally Sunshine]

Another and searching on how to get the details on the statements in this part of the abstract!


2) eggs warmed for short periods prior to incubation have slightly improved hatchability;

3) storing eggs small-end-up may improve hatchability;

7) the most critical period for turning is 3-7 days of incubation, with little beneficial effect after 13 days.


http://www.cabdirect.org/abstracts/19910188960.html;jsessionid=CFD4EA6E323B6D99657ABED082387C24

 

[Sally Sunshine]

I really need to get work done, but I cant, I get into reading and just keep reading! lol

New research from Turkey shows that photoperiodic lighting programmes (16 hours of light:eight hours of dark) during incubation affect the adaptation of broiler chicks to their environment after hatch. The heaviest broilers at 35 days of age reared with the photoperiodic lighting programme (rather than continuous light) were those that had undergone the same programme during all or part of the incubation period. http://www.thepoultrysite.com/articles/2705/photoperiodic-lighting-programmes-during-incubation


so what about those incubators with NO lights? hmmmmmm no wonder my styro bators stink and my coolers rock! LOL

 

[Sally Sunshine]

OZ this is for you to have a look at complete with images.... pretty cool primitives!

http://www.lrrd.org/lrrd24/1/sumy24010.htm

Comparative study between rice husk and sand incubation techniques for hatching the improved backyard poultry eggs​

M C Sumy, M M Islam and M K I Khan​

 

[Sally Sunshine]

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Oz think there is need to use an ap maker with the sites since most use cell phones now?

 

[Sally Sunshine]

http://www.foodgrade-hydrogenperoxide.com/id30.html


THOUGHTS ?

 

[loveourbirds]

sally, i wanted to point out something on a link you just posted, now i cant find the link.

it was about the effectiveness of DE.

 

[Sally Sunshine]

sally, i wanted to point out something on a link you just posted, now i cant find the link.

it was about the effectiveness of DE.

have at it! I have read good bad the ugly, I just dont use it, I never want to deal with critters so I treat them on a preventative schedule, I dont mess with that stuff. there are many who use DE and still get the bugs worms.

so please share info! always like info and discussion, everyone seems so busy right now not many up for this kinda stuff lol. I will have to quote a million things when everyone is back into things!

 

[Sally Sunshine]

I know many people love DE but what is it?

Diatomaceous earth is made from the fossilized remains of tiny, aquatic organisms called diatoms. Their skeletons are made of a natural substance called silica. Over a long period of time, diatoms accumulated in the sediment of rivers, streams, lakes, and oceans. Today, silica deposits are mined from these areas.

and in the news today....

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration proposed long-awaited rules on Friday to limit crystalline silica, a move it said would prevent nearly 700 deaths a year by reducing exposure to these very small particles that can cause lung cancer and other diseases.

“Exposure to silica can be deadly, and limiting that exposure is essential,” said David Michaels, the assistant secretary of labor in charge of OSHA. He estimated that the proposed rule would prevent 1,600 new cases of silicosis each year.
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Just Sayin.......... Sometimes natural aint natural

the same problems can come from 7 dust.

i know this will make some of you cringe - for a small flock owner DE and 7 Dust might be the way to go. i blinded a hen in one eye with 7 dust, and started looking at alternatives. for flocks of any size (if its available to you) ground tobacco stalks mixed with bedding will work great as a preventative. even throwing a pinch of bulk bagged tobacco in the bedding will help.

with as many chickens as we have, i prefer Ivomec pour on- for chickens i dont plan on eating. i dose it with a syringe at 1/4 cc on my small bantams up to 1/2 cc on medium sized chickens, and 1 cc on turkeys. it kills the bugs and worms them at the same time.

some people mix a solution of lime and water and paint the inside of their coops with it, i cant tell you if it works; but its cheap and by others statements it is supposed to work well.

i've talked about this somewhere before, and i have not used it on chickens. but spinosad is an organic that should work fine on chickens and kill bugs. i only know of it as a liquid concentrate for around $20 a bottle. its a bacteria that feeds on spent fermenting grains. if i remember correctly on vegetables there was no withdraw periods before you could eat them.

You can use a fogger with permethrin

Its pretty heavy duty but works as it gets into every nook and cranny

I put permethrin on my skin with insect repellent

http://www.pbigordon.com/pdfs/Permethrin-10-SL.pdf

You can also fog with oxine to kill resp diseases

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ran into this searching....

"Effect of diatomaceous earth on parasite load, egg production, and egg quality of free-range organic laying hens" http://diatomaceous.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/PoultryScienceRLEStudy.pdf