Diary & Notes ~ Air Cell Detatched SHIPPED Chicken Eggs for incubation and hatching

[foxvalleyfarm]

I used flock raiser for a long time...until I got rid of the messy ducks and annoyingly loud guineas. Just give layers extra calcium.

Good to know. Sadly none of my local feed stores have it in crumbles. So medicated chick starter it is.

 

[subhanalah]

Good to know. Sadly none of my local feed stores have it in crumbles. So medicated chick starter it is.

You can ferment or even just soak the pellets. Its good for all fowl you keep.

 

[foxvalleyfarm]

You can ferment or even just soak the pellets. Its good for all fowl you keep.

I forgot about those things. Oh well next time

 

[HenchantedAcres]

I actually cleaned and sterilized all the reg coolers this morning, then I started to feel really weird and very sleepy, I slept all afternoon and evening!  Not sure what is wrong with me, I had to do all my housework a little bit ago.  hate when I have to do that stuff before bed! I feel like I lost a day!

who has faverolles that can tell me anything about them?  the ones DH got are blue salm favs and I just set them.  They are very pretty birds

Sally,
My second hatch was blue/lavender faverolles I bought off ebay. I started with 10 eggs, only 3 hatched. I tried to assist one that internally pipped, but not externally. He didn't make it. Yolk sac totally absorbed, just malpositioned.
I have been dealing with wry neck with one of the fav babies for almost 2 weeks now. He can't eat on his own, so I have been feeding him egg yolk mixed with poly baby vitamins (without iron), and save-a-chick water to dilute the yolk so it's not too thick for him. Don't know what else to do for him. I am starting to think I am just prolonging the inevitable. I have read all the wry neck articles I could find on here with mixed results. He is extremely dehydrated. His little comb is shriveled up, and when he eats, the mixture bubbles out of his eye sockets. Don't know why it does that, but it does. I am so broken hearted over him. He is so sweet. My girls have named him Moses, little Moe for short.
We came home from church and found him with his neck hanging like it was broken. He was fine before we left. Now his neck is hanging down with his beak looking up instead of between his feet. I have to rotate his neck around and hold it up so he can eat the yolk mixture. They have had save-a-chick added to their water from day one, so not sure if it's a vitamin deficiency or maybe hereditary. All 3 babies have fused 4/5 toes as well. I haven't been on byc because I have been busy caring for him. Any advice would be appreciated. I realize this post was for air cells, but no one respond much on the sick chick posts.

I hope you have better luck with your chicks.

On a better note, I have shipped eggs going into lockdown tomorrow night when I get home from work. Once again, they have some crazy air cells.

 

[CraftyChicky]

Hi CraftyChicky!! how far had the eggs traveled? how were they packaged? double boxed, bubble wrap? how large were the air cells when you got them? and mobile being rolling end to end or displaced wiggly a tad with saddle shapes?

What incubator are you using? fan or no fan? Thermos are calibrated and spot on? and hygros as well? your using humidity as a tool not as a set number? are you weighing or keeping a close eye on air cells? Turner or no turner?

Praying for your guys to make it through!

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Hi Sally, thanks for your interest in my hatch. Above I have copied and pasted your post, not sure if it's right! But here goes my answers :
My eggs traveled from mid Fl to me, mid Ga. All of the air cells were of average size, only one was saddled, but all were rolling with each turn of the egg. I didn't move them too much, didn't want to make the situation any worse. They were shipped to me in egg cartons with shredded paper inside the cartons, and inside the box which held the cartons. ...was not real happy about that. The eggs were not cheap! So, I let them sit for 48 hrs, hoping they might reattach a little bit, then set them on the 15th. I have them starting in a hovabater still air with 2 small water dishes inside, temps have been stable at 100-101 with a calibrated thermometer at mid egg height. I don't have a hygrometer...I know I need to get one. I will candle at day 10, and compare air cells then. I have been tilting the bator 2-3 x/day manually for turning. I hope to move them into my Brinsea as soon as the current chicks in the Brinsea hatch... Should be able to move them in by day 10-11. I am mainly concerned about the viability of eggs with detached air cells, and their hatchability. I have a friend whose husband has a poultry science degree, he said to not even bother trying to hatch them. But, I wanted to give it a try. :/ Whatcha think?

 

[subhanalah]

Sally,
My second hatch was blue/lavender faverolles I bought off ebay. I started with 10 eggs, only 3 hatched. I tried to assist one that internally pipped, but not externally. He didn't make it. Yolk sac totally absorbed, just malpositioned.
I have been dealing with wry neck with one of the fav babies for almost 2 weeks now. He can't eat on his own, so I have been feeding him egg yolk mixed with poly baby vitamins (without iron), and save-a-chick water to dilute the yolk so it's not too thick for him. Don't know what else to do for him. I am starting to think I am just prolonging the inevitable. I have read all the wry neck articles I could find on here with mixed results. He is extremely dehydrated. His little comb is shriveled up, and when he eats, the mixture bubbles out of his eye sockets. Don't know why it does that, but it does. I am so broken hearted over him. He is so sweet. My girls have named him Moses, little Moe for short.
We came home from church and found him with his neck hanging like it was broken. He was fine before we left. Now his neck is hanging down with his beak looking up instead of between his feet. I have to rotate his neck around and hold it up so he can eat the yolk mixture. They have had save-a-chick added to their water from day one, so not sure if it's a vitamin deficiency or maybe hereditary. All 3 babies have fused 4/5 toes as well. I haven't been on byc because I have been busy caring for him. Any advice would be appreciated. I realize this post was for air cells, but no one respond much on the sick chick posts.

I hope you have better luck with your chicks.

On a better note, I have shipped eggs going into lockdown tomorrow night when I get home from work. Once again, they have some crazy air cells.

I don't believe the save-a-chick has the proper vitamins in it. Can you try poultry nutri-drench for the little one?

ETA: you can hard boil the egg and put the crumbles in its mouth, it should!d swallow it. Once it gets a taste, it may start pecking and eating it on its own, or the very least, it's easy to get quite a bit of that in them with minimal effort.

 

[HenchantedAcres]

I don't believe the save-a-chick has the proper vitamins in it. Can you try poultry nutri-drench for the little one?

ETA: you can hard boil the egg and put the crumbles in its mouth, it should!d swallow it. Once it gets a taste, it may start pecking and eating it on its own, or the very least, it's easy to get quite a bit of that in them with minimal effort.

Where do you get poultry nutri-drench from?
I tried giving him cooked egg already, and he isn't able to swallow any. He just sticks his tongue out and looks like he's gagging and having trouble breathing.

 

[subhanalah]

I got mine from a local feed store. TSC carries it.

 

[chicksooner]

Sally,
My second hatch was blue/lavender faverolles I bought off ebay. I started with 10 eggs, only 3 hatched. I tried to assist one that internally pipped, but not externally. He didn't make it. Yolk sac totally absorbed, just malpositioned.
I have been dealing with wry neck with one of the fav babies for almost 2 weeks now. He can't eat on his own, so I have been feeding him egg yolk mixed with poly baby vitamins (without iron), and save-a-chick water to dilute the yolk so it's not too thick for him. Don't know what else to do for him. I am starting to think I am just prolonging the inevitable.

I have read all the wry neck articles I could find on here with mixed results. He is extremely dehydrated. His little comb is shriveled up, and when he eats, the mixture bubbles out of his eye sockets. Don't know why it does that, but it does. I am so broken hearted over him. He is so sweet. My girls have named him Moses, little Moe for short.
We came home from church and found him with his neck hanging like it was broken. He was fine before we left. Now his neck is hanging down with his beak looking up instead of between his feet. I have to rotate his neck around and hold it up so he can eat the yolk mixture. They have had save-a-chick added to their water from day one, so not sure if it's a vitamin deficiency or maybe hereditary. All 3 babies have fused 4/5 toes as well. I haven't been on byc because I have been busy caring for him. Any advice would be appreciated. I realize this post was for air cells, but no one respond much on the sick chick posts.

I hope you have better luck with your chicks.

On a better note, I have shipped eggs going into lockdown tomorrow night when I get home from work. Once again, they have some crazy air cells.

Oh dear. I dealt with this last summer on a batch of chicks from shipped eggs. Awesome hatch but lost several 2-3 month olds to wry neck. I think it was hereditary and/or combination of medicated feed and inadequate vitamins. Medicated feed may prevent vitamin absorption. My story does not end well as I gave up dropper feeding and culled. From what I understand if the Poly Vi Sol is going to help it should show improvement but any recovery is going to be very slow. I personally made the choice to cull because I don't have time to dropper feed anyone. I also knew I would not be using them for any future breeding.

 

[HenchantedAcres]

Oh dear. I dealt with this last summer on a batch of chicks from shipped eggs. Awesome hatch but lost several 2-3 month olds to wry neck. I think it was hereditary and/or combination of medicated feed and inadequate vitamins. Medicated feed may prevent vitamin absorption. My story does not end well as I gave up dropper feeding and culled. From what I understand if the Poly Vi Sol is going to help it should show improvement but any recovery is going to be very slow. I personally made the choice to cull because I don't have time to dropper feed anyone. I also knew I would not be using them for any future breeding.

So this morning, I get up early to feed him before going to work, and my female faverolle is now doing the exact same thing! She was fine last night. My favs have been in the same brooder with my brahma babies, and my brahmas are doing great, so I don't think it's nutrition any more. So I went ahead and have her poly-vi-sol this am as well. This is getting to be really depressing.