Diatomaceous Earth

[jonterhaar]

Royal Hills,
Do you use sevindust?

 

[RoyalHillsLLC]

Haven't in years. Why? I know it has some toxicity issues and should be used sparingly. Many people do use too much of it.

 

[SandraChick]

Royal Hills-

I went to ecosmart's webpage you listed earlier.

it tells you it uses organic oils, pepermint oils, and cinnamon oils etc....then it says see the product lable for more info---but the product label is not online.

Also, where is the research? It's not listed on their web site.

I'm a huge DE fan, but always open to suggestions.

Sandra

 

[RoyalHillsLLC]

http://www.ecosmart.com/Commercial/Products/product-details.asp?MarketID=1&CategoryID=2&ProductID=3

Look at the commercial side of the website and it has labels, Material safety data sheets, and more.

 

[SandraChick]

thanks for the link


from msds of EcoPCO EC Insecticide Concentrate

Potential Health Effects: Harmful if swallowed or inhaled. Causes moderate
eye irritation. Avoid breathing spray mist. Avoid contact with skin, eyes or
clothing. Remove and wash contaminated clothing before reuse. Wash thoroughly
with soap and water after handling.
Flammable: Do not use or store near heat or open flame.
IF SWALLOWED: Immediately call a poison control center or doctor. Do not
induce vomiting unless told to do so by a poison control center or doctor. Do
not give any liquid to the person. Do not give anything by mouth to an
unconscious person.
IF INHALED: Remove person to fresh air. If not breathing, call 911 or an
ambulance, then give artificial respiration, preferably mouth-to-mouth, if possible.
Call a poison control center or doctor for further treatment advice.
IF ON SKIN OR CLOTHING: Take off the contaminated clothing. Rinse the
skin immediately with plenty of water for 15-20 minutes. Call a poison control
center or doctor for further treatment advice.
IF IN EYES: Hold eye open and rinse slowly and gently with water for 15-20
minutes. Remove contact lenses, if present, after the first 5 minutes, then
continue rinsing eye. Call a poison control center or doctor for treatment
advice.

ugh...
I'm still interested in more info...I still lack research...even anectotal info not from the company itself.

Sandra​

 

[RoyalHillsLLC]

Obviously you are not seriously interested. You are just looking for ways to somehow attack me. Whatever.

 

[SandraChick]

Royal hills-

I am interested....

You said "The science seems good to me."- so I was asking to see the science.

I'm sorry if I offended you in any way
Sandra

 

[RoyalHillsLLC]

Most of "the science' is in my head that I was referring to. I have twenty years of plant science background and plants are very effective at creating oils to repel or kill insects.
I also read MSDS sheets daily as my job, and those don't worry me at all. There are many substances we use daily that are toxic, natural and man-made. Everything has limits and should be used safely. Example, table salt. It is more toxic to people than a large percentage of the pesticides on the market and we sprinkle it on our food for flavor (me included).
That is a whole "nother" story. The plant oils referenced in that product I feel, based on my experience should work well and they claim to have found a unique combination of them that works well together. I can't find any flaws in their marketing like I can with many products. It makes sense to me. And no, I don't currently sell any of the "green' products we have discussed in case anyone is wondering.

 

[jessied1227]

Not to cause more of a stir here, but I have found this thread extremely interesting, and just want to add my 2 cents worth.

We have, just this year, moved onto 13 acres. We have maybe 3 or 4 acres cleared, and the rest is HEAVILY wooded. Ticks were a horrible problem for us. We were all (including the kids) getting 3-5 ticks a week, no matter how we dressed, etc.

I would walk across the yard to put the chickens out, and come in to find a tick hanging off my leg. It was awful.

After seeing it here on BYC, we ordered a 50 lb. bag of DE (which BTW, will take us YEARS to use, lol). The hubby masked up, and spread it around the house, the kid's playgym, everywhere we we sat or were active.

We haven't had a tick in MONTHS. I use it in the animals' feed, no worms in the cats or dog, which are 100% outside animals. It makes huge anthills disappear. I use it in the coop and the chicken's dusting areas. The birds have no ticks, mites, etc., and as far as that goes, neither have the other animals outside, and the poor cats used to get INFESTED with them.

All the science in the world would not change my mind about how it works. My own personal experience has shown me that it works, and that's enough for me.

JMHO-
Jess

 

[SandraChick]

Thanks Royal Hills-

I had assumed to had read some research... my bad for assuming.

I am a huge DE fan and like Jess have had good personal experience with it.

I did recently add orange oil to my arsenal-- I spray it on all the wood in my coop as well as add a few drops to my white vinegar when spraying weeds in my driveway.

I've been tossing around the idea of using peppermint oil in the garage for mice/rats/bugs...but I haven't gotten to the actual do it stage yet. I like to mull over things and discuss it with people to see all different points of view about it before I actually decide.

I'm not sure about this new product yet, but it's on my "watch and see" list.

Thank you for sharing.
Sandra