Did you know that grapes and raisins are toxic to dogs?

[boilerjoe_96]

Some more:

Turkey skin
Raw eggs
Liver
Raw meat and poultry

Uhh.... well my 20 lb(just a guess) beagle gets into chicken coop from time to time(when i leave door open) and feasts...

2 or 3 eggs is not uncommon, if 2 or 3 eggs don't kill a small dog like a beagle...must take a gross of them.....either that or they are ok...

Oh she also likes pheasant eggs(wild)...​

 

[texasreb]

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I am not argueing with you, just trying to think this through. The medicine that I put between my dogs' shoulder blades is toxic, as is the heartworm pills that I give them each month, corrrect? So, aren't we already putting toxins into our animals anyway?

Again, I am just trying to understand this, not start an argument.

You are right, of course. Womers and flea treatments are man made chemicals designed to do a particular job. There is a risk every time we dose our animals with these products. In most instances the risk is worth it because the potential for harm is low (from the treatments) and the potential for good is high. I do know that certain supermarket brands of flea medication have given dogs and cats severe adverse reactions and even death. I also know that certain breeds of dogs (collies) do not tolerate avermections (HeartGuard contains an avermectin called ivermectin) at all.

Garlic is toxic. Garlic's effectiveness as a flea remedy is anecdotal. Why risk it? I've looked over several websites trying to find scientific studies to support it's use as a flea treatment and I didn't find any. I found several herbal and natural websites that said it was perfectly safe. One website that said 8 gloves a day was the correct dose to prevent fleas in dogs over 50lbs. Jeez! I hope that not too many people are actually doing this! Scary!

I've also run into a growing number of people who do not believe in vaccines, flea treatments and wormers. These people are not ill-informed and/or low income folks who can't afford to treat their pets. They honestly believe the the risk vs. efficacy of such treatments isn't worth it. They work very hard hand-picking fleas off their pets and taking other measures to ensure their pets' health and safety. These are often the same people who do not vaccinate their children. They believe that such treatments are inherently more dangerous than not treating.

I do believe that we tend to over-medicate our pets in general, but I don't really support never vaccinating, worming and/or using flea preventative. I respect those who do, because those that I've met tend to be very diligent and proactive with their pets needs.

I hope that answers you question. Ask again if it doesn't or come back with reasons why you think I'm wrong. Discussion is good. I'm always learning.

 

[olp_63]

uh-oh, we "treated" our silly dog to grapes all the time in the past! She never had any problem with them...then again, she also tries to eat our paper towels. Yes, paper towels.

 

[spatcher]

If you like it...eat it! If they like it...give it to them! Do you really want to live long enough to drool all over yourself? Think about it!

 

[Kandy]

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People will think I'm aweful for it, but I completely agree. After all, how many people will give up cheesecake just because it's fattening and high cholesteral and sugar?

I had a dog as a kid who would pick grapes off of our grapevines one at a time and eat them. It was really cute. The bottom ones were all his, because he peed on them

. My mom did end up putting him down, but if the grapes killed him, he would've lived extraordinarilly long without them. He was an old dog when he died.

 

[Arctichicken]

Turkey skin
Raw eggs
Liver
Raw meat and poultry


I"m sorry but I completely disagree with this. Raw meat is not bad for dogs!! It has been proven over and over that dogs on the barf diet or raw diet do very well. We feed our dogs raw and high quality (non-commercial) kibble. They have beautiful skin and coats. And excellent health.

Some of the things on the list are definitly correct but some of it is extreme. I do agree with the pork. I use to raise great danes and they are one of the breeds who are even more sensitive to pork.
Some people really need to do more research into what is a "natural" K-9 diet.

 

[SundownWaterfowl]

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Turkey Skin: They can develop pancreatitis from consuming too much fat, and turkey skin often has a lot of fat attached.

Raw Eggs: Contain an enzyme called avidin, which decreases the absorption of biotin (a B vitamin).

Raw meat and poultry: Salmonella

Onions: Onion toxicity causes a Heinz body anemia. Heinz bodies are small bubble-like projections which protrude from a red blood cell and can be seen when the cells are stained. This "bubble" is a weak spot in the red blood cell and, therefore, the cell has a decreased life-span and ruptures prematurely.

 

[deb1]

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Turkey Skin: They can develop pancreatitis from consuming too much fat, and turkey skin often has a lot of fat attached.

Raw Eggs: Contain an enzyme called avidin, which decreases the absorption of biotin (a B vitamin).

Raw meat and poultry: Salmonella

Onions: Onion toxicity causes a Heinz body anemia. Heinz bodies are small bubble-like projections which protrude from a red blood cell and can be seen when the cells are stained. This "bubble" is a weak spot in the red blood cell and, therefore, the cell has a decreased life-span and ruptures prematurely.

I don't know about onions...but would a person who followed a Barf Diet(I don't) feed their dogs exclusively turkey or raw eggs? Or do the dogs eat some variety? I would imagine that Turkey skin fed occasionally wouldn't be dangerous.



Texas Reb, you explained that well. Thank you.

 

[texasreb]

I feed a partially raw, partially kibble based diet to my two dogs.

In the interest of clarity, the BARF diet is just one of many raw diets out there. If you are feeding your pets raw foods, you may or may not be feeding the BARF diet--it has stritct guidelines and recipes. BARF originally stood for Biologically Appropriate Raw Food, now most people know it as Bones And Raw Food. Bones comprise up to 60% of this diet. Most of the bones are beef and sheep.

I prefer the Prey Model diet. This diet consists of whole foods such as whole turkeys, rabbits, fish (exlusive of salmonoids)--skin, blood, feathers/fur, organs--the whole animal. People who are waaaaay into this diet actually feed the animals live whenever possible. The theory behind raw diets is to mimic nature, right? Well how often would a wild canine come across a pile of frozen beef bones or raw chicken breasts.....Never? The prey model mimics what wild animals would eat. If you are raising your own animals for the dogs to consume, you can "gut-load" the animals by feeding them just before letting the dogs have them. This is how the dogs get their vegetable matter. This diet is more gruesome than BARF, but much more well rounded.

There are other raw diets out there, but I can't think of the names and philosophies behind them right now.....

 

[ronniega1]

glad i read this my poodles love fruit no more grapes for them thanks for the info...ronnie:cd