Did you know that grapes and raisins are toxic to dogs?

[WoodlandWoman]

I really wish they would discover why grapes and raisins are sometimes toxic and sometimes not toxic, to dogs. I have had quite a few dogs eat grapes and raisins over the years and none ever got sick in any way or threw up. They didn't live shortened lives or have any renal failure.

I no longer let my dogs eat grapes and raisins, because of the reports. I'm not saying that anyone else should feed them, either. I really do wonder, though, how so many dogs have eaten these in the past, with no problem.

I understand that some foods can have benefits in smaller amounts and be toxic in larger amounts. When this information first started going around, I thought volume was the problem. However, I've read more than once that even small amounts will kill a dog. Is that just fear mongering? Are people with good intentions exaggerating for the sake of dogs with stupid owners? I don't know. I'd sure like to know what causes this problem, though.

 

[hooligan]

Here's some alternative info on Avacado Oil:

Avocado oil is a rich source for the essential oils that promote a healthy skin and coat. The avocado has the highest vitamin E content of any fruit. It also contains lutein, which is a carotenoid. Lutein acts as an antioxidant, protecting cells against the damaging effects of free radicals. It benefits eyesight and reduces the risk of cancer and heart disease.

As for garlic....8 cloves is a LOT. My vet recommends no more than 1 SMALL clove per 20 lbs. I don't give my dogs garlic to ward off fleas (that what I buy Advantage for) but I do bake them treats with garlic. I try to go natural whenever I can though and add natural supplimets to their food when possible.​

 

[texasreb]

I don't discount the health benefits of avocado at all. I also love the taste of avocado! People are not dogs and vice versa.

I don't have any idea about how much active research is done to further identify the exact mechanism's of toxicity of these various substances. I doubt very much. It's probably mostly done by statistical evidence collecting. In this instance we as pet owners have to rely on the veterinary community to accurately identify and report their suspected cases of toxicity and then compile the data in such a way that trends can be spotted.

I choose to err on the side of caution, but I don't bash people who don't. I think the whole purpose of this thread is information sharing. Several people have put the information and their own personal experiences out there. It is now up to us (the readers) to make informed choices about what we feed our pets.

 

[texasreb]

The list of foods that can possibly cause adverse reactions in some animals is very short in comparison to all of the foods available in the world!

How many items are on all of our lists? Less than 50? of those, how many do we regularly feed our pets, 2-3? I think it's rather simple to find alternatives to 3 foods that might be toxic.

Substitute cinnamon for garlic, they have some similar health benefits.

Substitute any oil rich in Omega 3's and Omega 6's for avocado.

Substitute any other fruit (except avocado!) for the grapes/raisins as a snack.

PROBLEMS SOLVED!!!!

 

[hooligan]

Can you even buy avocado oil? I have never seen it anywhere. I just know that some of the better kibbles have it in them, like Avoderm. I add various different oils to the dogs food like: olive, borage, fish, e etc. I used to only use olive but when Hooligan got cancer I read up on anything that might help her thru it and adding other oils was recommended.

 

[SundownWaterfowl]

I dont even like Advacados. They are the nastiest thing. Ugh it's like mush

 

[gumpsgirl]

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Oh not me! I LOVE them! Add them to a fried egg sandwich and you have something very YUMMY!

 

[WoodlandWoman]

With most toxic foods and plants, they have identified the chemical component that causes the toxicity. They can usually say why it's toxic, how it causes a problem in the body and why certain species have a problem and other species don't. They can often give a fairly close estimate of what is a lethal dose. There's actually a lot of information available on this topic.

 

[Run-A-Muck Ranch]

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8 cloves would be a small amount for our dogs...
M.J.(47 lbs.) would be getting 2-3 cloves
Macy(89 lbs.)would be getting 4-5 cloves
Dodge(210lbs.) would be getting 10+ cloves

We have large dogs, and if 8 cloves were a lot, 1 of our dogs would be given way more than a safe amount.

Our dogs really eat what they eat.
All are healthy, all are well taken care of. None have health issues. None have had any effects from foods they have eatten.
I posted earlier about our dogs have eatten raisins and grapes...

I agree to some extents to both sides of the good and bad.
Moderation I am sure is safe. Over moderation I am sure can be unsafe. The same goes for pretty much any and everything. Human or animal related.
Sometimes it seems things are over stressed. Other times things get under stressed.
There are many homemade and or natural recipes for dog food and treats that call for items that according to one list or another a dog shouldn't have.

 

[Arctichicken]

Raw meat and poultry: Salmonella

Like someone else said we are not dogs and vice versa. I used to work for a Vet as an assistant, I can tell you I have honestly never heard of a dog getting salmonella poisoning. We can but I don;t think dogs can. They eat out of dumpsters for crying out loud.

If a dog is fed healthy, fresh raw food they will not have a problem.


I had never heard of the prey diet, I don't think I could do that on, then they might think they could eat the cat. But they love the raw and kibble diet we have them on.