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Seems slightly overdramatized, and a lot of the footage is looped, and shown in a lighting that makes it even gloomier, but that's probably how it can look in many places. I was trying to find this site I saw a few years back, which mas made in collaboration with the Helsinki University Animal Welfare department and some swine and egg producers. They showed the whole process from beginning to end, with some quite graphic but interesting videos. They didn't try to hide that it looks quite gruesome, but also showed what steps are taken to make it as humane as possible.

But however you put it, if people want to eat humanely treated animals, they're going to have to start paying more for their meat. A lot of the stuff shown on that video is just pure animal cruelty, though. That would be easy to strip away. I think one of the problems is that the people working there have probably become completely numb to the whole process. It must not be an easy job to do, in the long run.
 
vehve yeah. I don't really agree with most animal rights groups myself but I've seen some horrible conditions most of our chickens and pork are grown in the US. Can't get chicken or raise them yourself for .99cents a pound whole or leg quarters for .89cents pound. I'm just raising our own for now on and pretend I don't know how much it costs...
 
That kind of prices are insane. I don't think I've ever seen pork for less than 5-6 euros per kilo, and that you don't see often. Except after christmas when you can get a whole ham for like a euro per kilo. Foreign monster broiler legs sometimes go for like 2 euros per kilo though. Domestic chicken is usually about 4-5 euros for leg, or 10-20 for breast.
 
Couple of this weeks local flyers vehve beef can get pretty expensive but pork and chicken can get relatively cheap, We get pork tenderloins on sale sometimes for .99cents a pound. just would rather not know how they are factory farmed. Beef cattle feed lots are just as bad as the chicken and pork factories. I'd like to get a couple pigs in the spring, do have room for them, plan on hatching out about fifty chickens, and eat the cost. Doubling the size of our garden. That's about the best I can do right now.

 
Duck Breast is $12 a breast where my sister lives (vancouver) $5 a lb for most meat on average here. The local stuff is more but worth it I think. I really like knowing my farmer. And like beer can I don't want to think about how much my birds cost me when I eat them... Letting the chickens live about 8 months, and the Rouen ducks aren't full grown for a year and a half... Guess I should look into how long to the muscovys...
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Thank you for posting that educational wakeup call video, waking me up to what is going on. I dont eat the grocery store brands. I raise myself, they are in plain and clear view of any passer by. Well treated. Happy and healthy. They live good lives. I serve them well as they serve me well. It is a partnership. We are co owners. Sometimes I think they own me.
 
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Yeah feedlots are nasty... But the cattle are there for a pretty short time.

Most american beef is range fed, maybe put out to clean up a farmer's field after harvest.... And only the last maybe three weeks put in the feedlot.
 

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