Do I have a Frizzle x Frizzle? (Updated Pic)

[shelleyb1969]

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That's EXACTLY what I'm wondering, Chick Magnet! Since my guy (the black one) looks just like a normal silkie, does he still carry the frizzle gene? I'm going to breed him to pure silkie hens to find out. But as I said, unless I state that he's a frizzled silkie, you simply cannot tell just by looking at him.

 

[klf73]

your black one may carry the gene but unless you breed him to another carrier or visual frizzle I do no believe the offspring will be frizzle

 

[shelleyb1969]

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thanks, klf. that's kind of what I was figuring. but since he's a pretty nice "silkie", I think I should get some nice silkie babes from him.

 

[nzpouter]

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No such thing as carrying the frizzle gene unfortunately, it is dominant, if you can't see it, they don't have it.

 

[klf73]

ok, thanks for clarifying. I wasn't positive and I hesitated to post. Good to know. I am still learning all the genetic and color specifics. between lavender, mottling, golden(as in cuckoo), frizzle, NN(showgirl) etc my head is spinning. I can do the genetics after knowing what is dom and what is recessive. So the best percentage you can ever get of frizzle is 50% right?

 

[rjv_piper]

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No such thing as carrying the frizzle gene unfortunately, it is dominant, if you can't see it, they don't have it.

they don't? I think they do... they should because with most of my birds that I breed I get about 1/4 of the hatch that isn't frizzled, then, I bred the straight feathered but with one frizzled parent to a strait feathered strait parents and got 1/4 of the chicks frizzled... it depends greatly on the parents...

I usually get 75% frizzled from hatcheries and my own breeding stock if they were bred right. (one strait and one frizzled)

 

[1Chick Magnet]

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No such thing as carrying the frizzle gene unfortunately, it is dominant, if you can't see it, they don't have it.

the description from the hatchery cat says one fourth of the frizzle chicks will not frizzle. so if I understand correctly, the one fourth will not create frizzled chicks unless you breed them to a bird that is visibly frizzled?

 

[rjv_piper]

my understanding of it was that the 1/4 still has the trait, but didn't show it. If that is correct, then the 1/4 of the bunch should produce frizzled chicks if bred right, but I am not 100% positive.

 

[nzpouter]

no, just a simple dominant vs rec.

Frizzle x non frizzle= 50-50 results

frizzle x frizzle= 25 straight, 50 frizzle, 25 over frizzled.

Now... the over frizzled bird... if you keep one rooster and put him accross any straight feathered hens, you'll get 100% frizzle... very handy bird.. but ugly as sin..

The importance of straight feathered birds is on the quality of the feathering. You need birds with medium length wide feathers to have good well defined frizzling, those with harder feather tends to stick up too much, and those with to long feathers will look lethargic.

 

[TXmom]

Here's an updated picture of Fiona next to one of our Silkies. She's still feathering more slowly than the other chicks, but she looks sooooo much cuter now. I spoke to the lady I got her from and it turns out they didn't know not to breed Frizzles together...so she may or may not have a double dose of the frizzle gene. They also have Silkies so it's very possible she's a Sizzle.