Does any one know where to get african pygmy geese

[destinduck]

Yea Its included in my start up cost ( now its 141 and I assumed this is per bird also or am I wrong.)If thats the case I see more prs on the way. Also aware of the feeding and care charges at the quarintine (per bird and weight of birds)Good luck bowling.Knock em down! And thanks again .

 

[aldren90]

Or shawn what i could do if you wanted if you got a couple pairs then ill pay you for the expenses for everthing and the birds etc. If you wanted to try that its up to you i think it would be more interesting to get different stock to everybody and get a thriving captive population in the usa that would be great i am all about that stuff then we could swap offspring and get a good bloodline established

 

[destinduck]

Ill keep you posted

 

[waterdog]

Good luck on this destin, I would love to get in on this we seen them at the Toledo Zoo in Ohio a couple of years ago they are really neat little ducks or geese. Its a little to cold here for them and I don't want to go through the heated buildings in the winter again. We used to keep the Palawan and Grey peacock pheasants but with the cold weather keeping a heated facility for them gets expensive.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

That's the truth, and yes with all the pygmys, they definitely need winter heat or you'll end up with $1500 legless pop cycles.

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

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Shawn that permit should be good for all of them in that shipment, not a per bird fee. As long as the import is approved, and the seller does all that other mess I mentioned, you'll be in good shape. Finding a breeder and a breeder from an approved country who has all the needed papers on his end and is willing to take on the hassle just to export a few pairs will be your hardest part. The broker is a new one on me, but then I have never personally done it, just talked to others who has. I always assumes the USDA was made aware of the transaction and had their people, or people from the certified quarantine facility pick them up. In fact pretty sure someone not associated with one of those two groups could be allowed to touch them. The facility doing the quarantine should be able to provide you with that info with ease, most likely one of their employees will be doing it, though I assure you there will be a fee associated with it.
The other person I know who did it, ran up to $5000 before it was all said and done, but it was a bigger order too, and eggs were involved as well...they had to be hatched there and then raised for 30 days.

 

[destinduck]

That would be good to know on just one 141 dollar permit and I fully understand about paying for their flight here and also vet bills on their end but the other several thousands ? Wonder what Im missing. I will probably call the Miami facility today hoping they can give me a rundown on this. Plus I will ask All cost on their end and who picks up the birds from the airport. I did want everyone to know on here what all this curtails now in case others attempt this. Also that this all will be arranged for the fall for thats my best time for all this even if the plan is perfection. (Which I hope is) Plus I want more than enough time to iron out problems and mainly those thousands my novice butt is missing as of now. I oviously can pay for this but on the other hand not a millionaire either. I will post a breakdown of all cost I know of after a while because things like the 141 dollar permit .maybe one permit maybe one for each bird. I want to know EXACTLY. Every time I pose a question to anyone I am going to ask" per bird"? like a broken record.

cause my gut tells me this is where alot of the hidden cost comes from.

 

[destinduck]

Ok Quote me on this.Ive been on the phone for awhile. One time import fee of $141.00. (does'nt matter on number of birds) $ 9.50 per duck to feed so four ducks for 30 days is $1,140,00 at quarintine. Diagnostic testing (for deseases)$51.00 per vial .(they can test up to 4 birds per vial.) It can range $35-50 dollars (depends which airlines does the import).That you pay the air lines that amount for handling.You have 72 hours before the plane lands that you have to inform everyone.To coordinate with everybody you MUST have a broker. 3 people meet the plane, The broker,USDA vet and a bonded approved transporter. Once the vet approves the transporter take the birds to one of the quarintine facilities. Now comes the fuzzy math,(sorry this is just the way it is) The broker is around 200.00. But here's the kicker $51.00 overtime to him for any late time, screw ups, or after hrs. So yes it does pay to get the flight on time AND during everyones regular working hours. This is where all the variables come from just on your end. So a round figure so far $1600.00. I dont know USDA vet cost till you actually submit your permit application. I dont know exact cost for bonded trasporter. I dont know what the Airlines charge for shipping a duck. I know inside the country and am assuming its the same but will check on this later. It is time consuming and that is what most people I talked on the phone with have said. Now if the birds and shipping and stuff on the other end dont hit over $1000.00 Im still in this rodeo.

I hope all this info helps anyone else like me wanting to import. Shawn

 

[waterdog]

Destin, we ship air cargo Delta Dash it runs about 100.00 here in the states a couple of years ago we had someone wanting us to ship ducks to England we never did it because it was to costly for him at that time shipping to England on Delta was 550.00. I assume it would be about the same shipping birds in. Sounds like you have been busy and making head way!!!!

 

[Boggy Bottom Bantams]

That's what I was about to say too, . You are talking international flights over the big pond, so it wont be nothing like local US shippings, think one told me once for 3 boxes it cost them about $1200 from the UK...so that's where a big portion of the missed funds are at. I'm sure they can get them in 1 box, say like Waterdog said, $550 there.
so your now at $2100 ish, plus birds, the sellers end cost, boxes, and all the vet fees you mentioned. I promise you, it's going to add up...but hey please dont let me discourage you, just know the cost are all there