Dog attack...dog dead. update Pg 4

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Ooooohhh! That's just mean!

Now if you will excuse me, I have to clean my laptop screen where I spewed my morning coffee when I burst out laughing reading that.

 

[speckledhen]

Whether folks agree with what Ladyhawk did or not, I would propose that you really don't know what YOU would do when faced with a predator going after your beloved chickens...and make no mistake, a dog is a predator when it is off its own property going after your pets/livestock. It's so easy sometimes to armchair quarterback, but when faced with a really volatile situation like this, you may do things differently than you think you will. Just consider that. I think the SSS method would depend on the situation, really. I see so many of these stories that sometimes I think it's the very best way, then again, it depends. I totally support Ladyhawk in the way she dealt with it.

 

[citrusdreams]

I'd also like to add, that sometimes I'm reading some really incredibly irresponsible advice, and given with a tad of self righteousness on top of it.

Please consider, when you scold people for not grabbing a loose dog in attack mode by the scruff of their neck, that someone who would take your words to heart may end up seriously hurt.

No one with a solid background (and with any good reputation) working with dogs would tell someone to grab a dog in attack mode. It's just plain dangerous.

There have been many people here in dog training, law enforcement, veterinary medicine, etc. that have given warnings about the danger of interfering with a dog in attack mode. And we've read examples by our own peers in this community how physically trying to deter a dog either doesn't work, or ends up in injury to the person trying to stop them.

I wish that telling your fellow community members to phyiscally intervene when their chickens are being attacked would stop. We have enough trouble keeping our head when our pets or livestock are attacked, the last thing people need to do is rush out to get mauled, or find out that their children were mauled, by trying to stop a dog on the hunt. It's just an emergency room visit waiting to happen.

I often wonder when reading these posts if the person who insists on intervening to stop a dog in attack mode would feel an ounce of responsibility if their advice led to someone getting really hurt. I'm thinking they're probably just say something like, "well these things just happen. I'm just glad you didn't shoot the dog. Maybe if you talk to the owner AGAIN they might feel bad that you have 100 stiches and multiple lacerations to your hands, arms and face, and maybe might keep their dogs in".

The laws that govern and spell out the legalities of protecting ourselves and our livestock and/or pets are there for a reason.

Just my worthless 2 cents.

 

[Cetawin]

Oh heavens my family raised GSD and trained them...there is no way I am gonna grab a dog I do not know when it is in attack/fight mode. Nope.

I will say this, both this dog and the one I shot months ago (who charged me snarling) truly had different owners. This one, the man understood, was not the least bit angry with me and even told me how sorry he was that I had to do it. The other dog's owner...I should have done the SSS.

I told him on three ocassions that the dog was at my house, tracking the girls. He would scent track their tractors, across the yard and right to garage where they were while the coop was being built. I went out to scare him off and the sucker charged me. I warned the owner I would shoot it if it came at me again or tried to get to my girls. He and his wife both called me a liar, said the dog had been in bed with his wife blah blah. I said fine...then you will have no worries about your dog when I shoot that red beast charging me. Dog came back, charged me I shot it. I took the dog back to their front door...he told me to put it by his trash can. Could not care less if I shot his dog and all he said was "oh I guess it was him in your yard huh".

I do not think I could ever do someting to deliberately break the law, I still have some faith in our justice system not enough to continue practicing and working in the legal field, but enough to not be concerned about going to jail for something so clearly stupid.

Not to mention one simple fact...my grandfathers would come up out of their graves and kick my behind for a second eternity if I ever did something like that. They raised me to stand up for my actions and take what I had coming. I fear karma and their retribution more than I fear the crazy woman down the road and the law.

 

[horsejody]

Cetawin, you go girl!!! It's too bad you can't shoot the owner (the wife I mean). I'm glad your little Chi didn't get hurt too. I can imagine my little Leo (Lhasa Apso) doing the same thing. The little dogs are usually the bravest.

 

[ChooksChick]

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OMGoodness...YOMANK!!!!!

I would like to know if this was all BEFORE your morningcoffee, because you, my friend, are a force with which to be reckoned if this was coffee-free!!!

I'm so sorry you had to do it- I know if hurt you to take such action, as it would me. I, too, have a 10# whirlwind, and I know she'd have attacked, too, and I'd have been forced to wield a shovel or broom! I can't shoot anything in city limits, and we're in the middle of town. I often her everyone's stories and worry about what would happen if a dog got into our yard. The people who back up to the neighbors on one side breed pit-bulls, and I suspect they sell them to folks who fight them. We're always worried one will end up in our yard due to fence-jumping that occurs. It's ugly, but you did the right thing.

 

[Cetawin]

Oh heck, I was still in jammies, slippers and bathrobe! My intent to was to take them out to go potty and then I was going back to sleep for an hour or so, hopefully. That did not happen.

For the record, I am usually not fit for society before my first cup of coffee, so I am amazed I hit the dog. Adrenaline I guess.

 

[ging3rhoffman]

Sorry to hear about your rough morning. We had a neighbors dog coming over and eating our cat food everyday for months! We got our new and first batch of chickens and my husband built it like it was fort knox. I knew that the neighbors dog was a problem and was going to be even a bigger problem so I wrote them a nice note saying that their dog had eaten the cats food for the last time and that the next time he was on our property that we would be forced to shoot him....it has been 4 months now and we have not seen Big Red Dog. The neighbors dont wave to us and we dont care. We are RIGHT and they are WRONG.

I keep a 22 loaded and ready for use.

 

[Cetawin]

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Thank you. I prefer to treat others as I would like to be treated. I would like for someone to come to me if it were my dog...I would understand no matter how sad and hurt I would be.

In actuality I am a real *itch 95% of the time. I speak my mind, I tell you like it is whether you like it or not. I do not mince words. I live by my own motto of "I will hurt you with the truth but never destroy you with a lie". I have no tolerance for stupidity, drug abusers, alcohol abusers, animal abusers, wife beaters or child abusers. I would prefer to shoot them on sight and be rid of them. Except for sexual predators, those I have a special slow and very painful way to be rid of them, a bullet would be a waste of money and end it too quickly for them.

The good things about me...I am fiecely loyal, I can be given complete trust, I am extremely protective of those I love and consider friends, you always know exactly where you stand with me and you get exactly what you see with me. I am considered very cold by most people and not one to be crossed because I have a pitbull tenacity and do not give up...my clients always loved that but acquaintenances never did. I do not get mad but I will spend eternity waiting for the perfect moment to get even. I will forgive but never forget.

So, I dunno, you might want to rethink your position because I can be a real PITA. As I told my DH when he proposed. I am 8itch, I like things my way, I do not take orders, I do not answer to or report to you, I will not account for my whereabouts every second or each penny I spend and you will be with me only because I want you there not because I need you there. In exchange I will love you, always be faithful, loyal and always there for you no matter what and protect you with my life if necessary. Still want to get married? The foolish man said yes so I accepted his proposal...poor soul has never been the same since.

 

[insiderart]

A neighbor I had once had this to say about dogs: one dog has one brain, two dogs have half a brain, three plus dogs have no brains!